While I certainly believe all these features make it easier, I would have to say, if it's in one's mind to do so, they will no matter what. These abilities just push people a little quicker into the market then say the old fashioned way. What is the question by the way? lol I think "trust" or the lack of it is the biggest problem. The irony that we have so much available to us for purposes of communication make it so that the two who should be "communicating" aren't. Hek
What people are going to do, they are going to do.
I hope this will expose those who are not committed in their relationships sooner rather than later, so there are fewer "victims" of expectation for long-term relationships - like marriage - who get surprised by an unfaithful partner.
At the point where your "other" activities are getting in the way of, or taking the place of, time with your signficant other, and a tell-tale sign is that it's being hidden from that significant other, your relationship is in danger.
With its quick hits of newness and novelty, the Internet enables us to easily tune out and turn off to our partners when we should be making an effort to tune in and turn on.
Amusing.... You know, most of the time being the eternal exception to the rule makes life much more difficult, but then there are things like this that just leave me giggling at the insanity of it all.
I have to laugh also. Just because the one I love might be sitting in the same room with me does not mean for a second he is "with" me.....if he's somewhere in his head other then with me, he's not with me. I don't have to see him to know he's not present. I would rather be alone then be alone and have it rubbed in like salt. The internet allows some the ignorance of thinking "hey my spouse is home", well my dear, they may or may not be, and if they are "cheating" it won't be too long before they are gone. It's all a matter of time and conveince if it is in their mind to do so.
I would think that an exclusively on-line affair, where the partners never meet, would feel an awful lot like a game of Evony or Dungeons and Dragons after a while. Relationships don't just take place between minds. There's chemistry, daily interactions, working together though shared problems, a bunch of stuff.
I 100% disagree with this article. I'm not into some "elationship" (a stupid word that somone hopes will catch on), but I don't think its cheating if no physical intimacy is going on. Thats a load of crap and a complete cop out. Just because you have a PhD behind your name don't make you right. Meeting up, kissing, having sex, basically to get physical THATS the cheating part. Too many time we are allowing people to define and TELL us what cheating is. Most of that online crap is all fantasy and the desire for someone to understand you.
Do I think people need to unplugg more often?? Absolutely. Do I think people take online relationship seriously? Unfortunately yeah. It's because the world is filled with "lonely hearts" even when you are married or seriously involved with someone else. In the end, I don't think it's wrong for people to go on the internet and bare their souls. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than having a shrink. But people just have to understand what it really is... electronic signals and nothing more.
but I don't think its cheating if no physical intimacy is going on
You're right, you don't need someone with a PhD to tell you that -- ask your wife if she thinks it is ok for you to have a romantic lunch with a woman that she doesn't know about....or to send another woman sexually explicit emails....or for you to share details of your sex life with another woman.
I'm sure your wife would be thrilled! And agree with you completely/sarc
Here is my point, is it cheating if you have thoughts for some actress you've seen on the screen? And I am not talking about some romantic lunch here, I am talking about being on the friggin internet which is what this article is all about. Having a romantic lunch is a different thing all together because you have met (as they say) in real life. And speaking of the lunch, if it doesn't go any further than that, no its not cheating. You may have a desire for someone else, but if you don't act on it, it's nothing more than desire. Somehow the definition of desire got all wrap up into the definition of cheating. And that is my point, you c-a-n-n-o-t cheat electronically.
Are you being untrusting to your partner if you reveal details about your sex life to another woman, perhaps. Is it cheating? No! But people turn to all sorts of things (or people) when things are not going well in a relationship and that what it basically boils down to it. People want a sympathetic ear and they are not getting it from their partner so they go into some sort of chat room. And elationship is total horse manure unless it goes to an ACTUAL relationship. Being desired and having lustful emails is not the same as cheating.
I bet the average elationship last no more than a month, maybe 2 tops! Then all that crap gets fricking boring. I was never one for online chating, phone sex because its stupid and unstimilating to me. And I think the newness of talking to someone going to run aground when stuff start talking about the real, about someone's kid, or the boredom of someone's day. You can't look into someone's eyes on the internet and not even with live video feeds, it is not the same.
Internet relationships are strictly for liars in my opinion. People who aren't real about who they are talking to people who aren't real bout who they are. It's snow white talking to prince charming, its not Ted talking to Mabel.
My ex-husband left me for someone he met while on-line gaming. I did not let myself go, I'm not a control freak or witch or whatever. He was addicted to on-line gaming and was a lump who did nothing around the house and did not participate in our family life at all. I wanted and needed a grown-up partner who would step up and be married, not a gamer boy in a man's body who was twice the age of most gamers, but he wanted to do stupid things and I was supposed to like it and never say anything about it.
Would he have been addicted to something else if on-line gaming did not exist? Who knows? Who knows if technology caused it? He pretty much made everyone who knew us think what the hell did he do, he must have taken leave of his senses etc. The new wife can have the ex, and they can game til their hearts' content . Now I think who cares anyhow? All I know is he did me a big fat favor. Now I'm seeing someone who actually desires me, with whom I can actually talk, and he has not one iota of interest in on-line gaming! I met him the old-school way, in person, and we had mutual friends, common interests etc.
A friend of mine said she knows of 3 couples who have split up due to one partner finding an old flame on Facebook and leaving. Maybe technology makes it easier, but that could happen at a high-school reunion.
Civie, maybe you and your ex were not meant to be. You hated what he really like to do, some men are like that and you will be surprise how many adults, men AND women, have gaming consoles or play online game. I know people women who are addicted to that facebook farmville and that is online gaming as well.
Sometimes I think people have it in their minds that they are going to change someone. Sometimes they try to change someone by shaming them. And that NEVER works. You hated what he did and he found someone who didn't mind. I am not a gamer, but from everything I've read, gaming is as addictive as alcohol or drugs. But it's cool that you met someone the old school way.
I think the leading cause of divorce is micro-managing. The need to control, pratically, ever part of your partner's life to include what that person do when you aren't around. too many of that going on.
no offense, but i wouldn't want to be with someone who spent 12 hours a day staring at a computer screen.
even though shared interests do contribute to healthier relationships, it's ok for one or both partners to have a separate hobby that they can share with friends or keep to themselves (gaming is one example). but spending too much time on a separate interest can put a strain on a relationship even when both partners are faithful.
my ex began an emotional affair with a woman he met at work, which later became physical. i knew something was happening, not only because he became distant and less interested in having sex with me (we still slept in the same bed), but because i had seen the emails and texts exchanged. i confronted him and he swore he would break it off with her because i meant so much to him (what a crock of s***). but he continued to see the slut behind my back, even while we were in couples counseling. after a few months, he left me for that whore. as he was moving out, i slapped him clear across the face. the malicious deadbeat deserved it. i never tried to control him and i never let myself go. he did it because he was a piece of s*** who felt we weren't sexually compatible and wanted someone who would get wasted with him every weekend (i rarely drink). he's now rotting away in Ohio, living with his parents and collecting unemployment at 35. i've gone on to better things (and people).
Infidelity is difficult for all people, including the ones having the affair.
The situations are all different, yet similar, in regards to why it happened, how it ends, what happens next, etc.
In some instances, it becomes the defining point in peoples lives where they begin to search deep within themselves and learn who they are as individuals. It can be the turning point in peoples lives as they hit rock bottom due to all the consequences involved. It can bring marriages and relationships closer together as you work together to forgive one another and reconnect. It can make you stronger people and less vulnerable if you are able to identify and learn what the reasons were that got you into the affair - especially if its not something that is common for you.
So, is it really "awful"? It can be. But it can also be a good thing depending on who's involved and where you are as a person when it ends.
Disclaimer: I am in no way admitting to or stating that I know any of this from personal experience. These are just my ideas on the subject.
While I certainly believe all these features make it easier, I would have to say, if it's in one's mind to do so, they will no matter what. These abilities just push people a little quicker into the market then say the old fashioned way. What is the question by the way? lol I think "trust" or the lack of it is the biggest problem. The irony that we have so much available to us for purposes of communication make it so that the two who should be "communicating" aren't. Hek
What people are going to do, they are going to do.
I hope this will expose those who are not committed in their relationships sooner rather than later, so there are fewer "victims" of expectation for long-term relationships - like marriage - who get surprised by an unfaithful partner.
At the point where your "other" activities are getting in the way of, or taking the place of, time with your signficant other, and a tell-tale sign is that it's being hidden from that significant other, your relationship is in danger.
Amusing.... You know, most of the time being the eternal exception to the rule makes life much more difficult, but then there are things like this that just leave me giggling at the insanity of it all.
:)
I have to laugh also. Just because the one I love might be sitting in the same room with me does not mean for a second he is "with" me.....if he's somewhere in his head other then with me, he's not with me. I don't have to see him to know he's not present. I would rather be alone then be alone and have it rubbed in like salt. The internet allows some the ignorance of thinking "hey my spouse is home", well my dear, they may or may not be, and if they are "cheating" it won't be too long before they are gone. It's all a matter of time and conveince if it is in their mind to do so.
And....once the cops order you to separate, that's pretty much the end of the seduction games. :)
In the end technology will be our undoing.
Agreed....what was once legitimately private is now - more and more - becoming public, via "technology".
I would think that an exclusively on-line affair, where the partners never meet, would feel an awful lot like a game of Evony or Dungeons and Dragons after a while. Relationships don't just take place between minds. There's chemistry, daily interactions, working together though shared problems, a bunch of stuff.
I 100% disagree with this article. I'm not into some "elationship" (a stupid word that somone hopes will catch on), but I don't think its cheating if no physical intimacy is going on. Thats a load of crap and a complete cop out. Just because you have a PhD behind your name don't make you right. Meeting up, kissing, having sex, basically to get physical THATS the cheating part. Too many time we are allowing people to define and TELL us what cheating is. Most of that online crap is all fantasy and the desire for someone to understand you.
Do I think people need to unplugg more often?? Absolutely. Do I think people take online relationship seriously? Unfortunately yeah. It's because the world is filled with "lonely hearts" even when you are married or seriously involved with someone else. In the end, I don't think it's wrong for people to go on the internet and bare their souls. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than having a shrink. But people just have to understand what it really is... electronic signals and nothing more.
You're right, you don't need someone with a PhD to tell you that -- ask your wife if she thinks it is ok for you to have a romantic lunch with a woman that she doesn't know about....or to send another woman sexually explicit emails....or for you to share details of your sex life with another woman.
I'm sure your wife would be thrilled! And agree with you completely/sarc
Here is my point, is it cheating if you have thoughts for some actress you've seen on the screen? And I am not talking about some romantic lunch here, I am talking about being on the friggin internet which is what this article is all about. Having a romantic lunch is a different thing all together because you have met (as they say) in real life. And speaking of the lunch, if it doesn't go any further than that, no its not cheating. You may have a desire for someone else, but if you don't act on it, it's nothing more than desire. Somehow the definition of desire got all wrap up into the definition of cheating. And that is my point, you c-a-n-n-o-t cheat electronically.
Are you being untrusting to your partner if you reveal details about your sex life to another woman, perhaps. Is it cheating? No! But people turn to all sorts of things (or people) when things are not going well in a relationship and that what it basically boils down to it. People want a sympathetic ear and they are not getting it from their partner so they go into some sort of chat room. And elationship is total horse manure unless it goes to an ACTUAL relationship. Being desired and having lustful emails is not the same as cheating.
I bet the average elationship last no more than a month, maybe 2 tops! Then all that crap gets fricking boring. I was never one for online chating, phone sex because its stupid and unstimilating to me. And I think the newness of talking to someone going to run aground when stuff start talking about the real, about someone's kid, or the boredom of someone's day. You can't look into someone's eyes on the internet and not even with live video feeds, it is not the same.
Internet relationships are strictly for liars in my opinion. People who aren't real about who they are talking to people who aren't real bout who they are. It's snow white talking to prince charming, its not Ted talking to Mabel.
My ex-husband left me for someone he met while on-line gaming. I did not let myself go, I'm not a control freak or witch or whatever. He was addicted to on-line gaming and was a lump who did nothing around the house and did not participate in our family life at all. I wanted and needed a grown-up partner who would step up and be married, not a gamer boy in a man's body who was twice the age of most gamers, but he wanted to do stupid things and I was supposed to like it and never say anything about it.
Would he have been addicted to something else if on-line gaming did not exist? Who knows? Who knows if technology caused it? He pretty much made everyone who knew us think what the hell did he do, he must have taken leave of his senses etc. The new wife can have the ex, and they can game til their hearts' content . Now I think who cares anyhow? All I know is he did me a big fat favor. Now I'm seeing someone who actually desires me, with whom I can actually talk, and he has not one iota of interest in on-line gaming! I met him the old-school way, in person, and we had mutual friends, common interests etc.
A friend of mine said she knows of 3 couples who have split up due to one partner finding an old flame on Facebook and leaving. Maybe technology makes it easier, but that could happen at a high-school reunion.
Maybe marriage is the leading cause of divorce!
Civie, maybe you and your ex were not meant to be. You hated what he really like to do, some men are like that and you will be surprise how many adults, men AND women, have gaming consoles or play online game. I know people women who are addicted to that facebook farmville and that is online gaming as well.
Sometimes I think people have it in their minds that they are going to change someone. Sometimes they try to change someone by shaming them. And that NEVER works. You hated what he did and he found someone who didn't mind. I am not a gamer, but from everything I've read, gaming is as addictive as alcohol or drugs. But it's cool that you met someone the old school way.
I think the leading cause of divorce is micro-managing. The need to control, pratically, ever part of your partner's life to include what that person do when you aren't around. too many of that going on.
no offense, but i wouldn't want to be with someone who spent 12 hours a day staring at a computer screen.
even though shared interests do contribute to healthier relationships, it's ok for one or both partners to have a separate hobby that they can share with friends or keep to themselves (gaming is one example). but spending too much time on a separate interest can put a strain on a relationship even when both partners are faithful.
my ex began an emotional affair with a woman he met at work, which later became physical. i knew something was happening, not only because he became distant and less interested in having sex with me (we still slept in the same bed), but because i had seen the emails and texts exchanged. i confronted him and he swore he would break it off with her because i meant so much to him (what a crock of s***). but he continued to see the slut behind my back, even while we were in couples counseling. after a few months, he left me for that whore. as he was moving out, i slapped him clear across the face. the malicious deadbeat deserved it. i never tried to control him and i never let myself go. he did it because he was a piece of s*** who felt we weren't sexually compatible and wanted someone who would get wasted with him every weekend (i rarely drink). he's now rotting away in Ohio, living with his parents and collecting unemployment at 35. i've gone on to better things (and people).
I am glad things got better for you!
Infidelity is really awful, is it not?
Infidelity is difficult for all people, including the ones having the affair.
The situations are all different, yet similar, in regards to why it happened, how it ends, what happens next, etc.
In some instances, it becomes the defining point in peoples lives where they begin to search deep within themselves and learn who they are as individuals. It can be the turning point in peoples lives as they hit rock bottom due to all the consequences involved. It can bring marriages and relationships closer together as you work together to forgive one another and reconnect. It can make you stronger people and less vulnerable if you are able to identify and learn what the reasons were that got you into the affair - especially if its not something that is common for you.
So, is it really "awful"? It can be. But it can also be a good thing depending on who's involved and where you are as a person when it ends.
Disclaimer: I am in no way admitting to or stating that I know any of this from personal experience. These are just my ideas on the subject.