It seems to me that the bullying has gotten so much worse and NO one is really addressing this issue. If the schools, police, and bus drivers are not going to protect your kids then as a parent that is your right. No child should go to school scared and have no one to turn to. As a child I was bullied and no one from the principle of my high school to the police would do anything to stop it. Maybe it's time parents step in and protect there children, maybe then those bullies would be more aware of the consequences before they verbally and physically abuse someone else!

Perhaps you have never been in that type of situation before. Maybe your child was never picked on or beat up before, during or after school. So maybe you don't know how you would react. I have been in that situation before. My DD was being bullied by another student 2 grades older than her at her before and after school program. I was infuriated. She was fearful, crying in the morning and didn't want to go to this program because she didn't want to deal with this girl. She told me she complained to the leader and they didn't do anything. I personally talked to the leader and they told me that it was the child's last year in the school and she was being cocky. I talked to the vice-principal about the incident and was told they couldn't do anything because it didn't actually happen during school but while she was in the care of a sub-contractor. The Vice knew which child I was talking about (I didn't know her last name) and knew her behavior. I personally witnessed her being verbally rude to her parents, siblings, other teachers in the program. The teachers told her not to do that. Her parents didn't correct her at all. I have no idea what went on in her home. But I do know that I personally told that child to leave my daughter alone and that I had better not hear about her bothering my child again. No actual threat - I am 5'1" hardly intimidating. But she never bothered her again and whenever I would go to talk to the leader, she would somehow find her way over to see what I was saying fearing it might be about her. The bully is in middle school now. I can hope that she gets a dose of her own medicine and opens her smart mouth one too manytimes to an older classmate. That probably sounds awful but kids like that are not going to learn except for the hard way.

Too bad the parents were upset that their boys were yelled at. Perhaps they should have taught their children that bullying isn't okay at any time. The mother who was incensed needs to get a clue. This is her fault because of the way she raised her son. Good that he got scared. Now maybe he won't bully anyone again.

I say, "Go Dad!" Bullying is a serious problem in todays school, and one that administrators would rather sweep under the rug. I'd do the same for my kid, and serve my jailtime with a smile on my face, knowing that finally someone put the fear of God into the little brats.

I live in Smalltown, Usa (Annawan, Illinois) and we've had our problems with bullying. We recently had an incident where 3 older students held down a younger teammate and proceeded to 'tbag' him. Were they harshly punished? Charged with sexual assault? Nope. They let the offenders graduate early to avoid going to alternative school. Just google Annawan, il and tbagging, you'll see the story.

My son had been bullied in the same school, and when he tried to report it to teachers, they did nothing. My response? I told him to beat the living piss out of one of them and it would stop. It is a shame that we have to go to this level in society today. Administrators will not do anything, parents are criminalized if they attempt to do something, and even our children face assault charges if they defend themselves. Bravo to the American Public School System.

Dennis-371507--Mister, YOU need to get a clue as to how schools operate (or rather, DON'T operate)!! My son was a victim at one school from 3rd grade through 5th, then we transferred him to another school further away for 6th grade, where it was better. He is a "band geek" (so is his sister & I was one, too) & was part of an afterschool Jazz Band at the local middle school. This punk that picked on him from the previous school started bullying him again. My son told me about it when I picked him up from the Jazz Band. I walked right over to the little smartass & his toadie, grabbed them both by the collar, shoved them up against the wall & told them that if EITHER of them f***** with my son ever again, I would beat the living s*** out of them!! I then got in touch with the guy in charge of the Jazz Band & pointed out the two thugs & explained the situation. He agreed that he would keep an eye on things until I got there.

My son was homeschooled for 7th Grade, so there weren't any problems, but he wanted to go back to public school for 8th Grade. Again, we had bullying issues. Not with the previously mentioned brats--this was a whole new group!! They were spreading rumors about my son being gay (nope--had a girlfriend), picking on him for his size (like a lot of boys in school, he was chunky) & being nasty in general. One kid attacked him from behind for no reason & tried choking him. If my son hadn't elbowed him in the gut hard enough to knock the wind out of him, my son would have passed out. Thankfully, my son's best friend, several other kids & the school janitor witnessed this. We went to the police & filed a complaint, but it has not done any good. After various complaints to the "counselor" & principal (the vice principal was on our side, but couldn't do much to help us), we all had a meeting with the superintendent, who told my son to simply "walk away & ignore them." Kind of hard to walk away when the little a$$wipes follow & continue their various assaults!!

Now, he's in 9th grade & things are going a little better. Some of the kids have matured over the summer. Some have "found God" & are going to church. Many have come to my son & apologized for how they treated him in school in previous years. Thankfully, my son is a "better" person, as he has chosen to forgive them. Doesn't mean he'll forget all of the cruelty they dished out on him, but he has forgiven them.

Time for more parents to get on school buses & let parents scare the little demons for bullying if the little demons' parents won't teach their "little darlings" that what they are doing is wrong!!

Being the smallest in the class, I was bullied constantly- until I learned to fight! Not only was I taught how to fight but, to fight DIRTY when necessary. I didn't start fights but, I did finish most of them.

Teach your son or daughter how to protect themselves by fighting back !!

Bravo Mr. Jones! If all children had an advocate like this father the world would be a better place.

For all those that advocate his arrest, perhaps we should extend that consideration to the parents, administrators, teachers and bus driver that failed his child on a daily basis. If I knew the guys address I would GLADLY contribute to his defense.

Last year my child and his friends were victims of bullies. The school administration said they would take care of it, they didn't. So each day I went to the school to pick my child and his friends up. Funny how the bullies will not torment kids when a parent shows up.

Also I bet those kids that tormented that little girl were not crying when they harassed her, so why were they scared and crying when the parent of the child showed up? I guess those bullies weren't so tough after all. That little girls father should not spend a second in jail. He was doing what school officials can't or won't do.

This man owes an apology to no one.

His daughter has cerebal palsey. When I heard about putting condoms on her head I needed to hear no more.

These boys and their incensed mommies and pansie daddys can be glad this is not my daughter.

Exactly OFG. I teach my children to stand up for themselves but I don't allow anyone to bully my children if I see it. If these parents are butt hurt over how their horrible children are behaving, maybe they should start by looking in the mirror. If that had been my daughter I would have had words with those little brats on the bus and then I would have went looking for their parents to let them know exactly what I thought about them.

If your children are bad, don't look for someone else to blame, blame yourself and your horrid children. And then fix your problem before they meet the child or parent that will fix it for them.

Dennis - quit playing both sides of the fence. In one breath parents are supposed to step in and protect their children - which this guy was doing.

In the next breath you're castigating (harshly criticizing) him and the people who support this guy. (which I do)

And it seemed to work because a couple of those kids were scared the guy was going to smack them.

Bus drivers have a tough job but by law in most states cannot do anything about any bullying they see unless it disrupts the safe operation of the bus. Apparently, teasing hitting and the like do not qualify.

Lastly, when my son was in 6th grade, he went to a christian school and had to ride the bus with the public school kids. One kid took a dislike to my son and constantly harassed and threatened him. He told other kids he'd kill my son if he could. I told my son to kick his a$$ and be done with the little scumbag. My son said it wasn't in his nature to do that no matter how much I wanted him to or he wanted to. (deep down, I knew that, but I also know that kids are like predators with each other. If you show weakness you're toast.)

So I paid a little visit to the kid. Asked him what his problem was and he got lippy. All I said was "Remember, I came to your house and I can come back anytime if you want. Or you can knock it off, leave him alone and never see me again". I didn't have to go back.

When my daughter was in school she had a boy constantly harassing her. Calling her names. Hitting her. The little punk even went so far as to call my house. I tried to do the right thing. I talked to the principle, called the police, nothing changed. Until one day she came home crying. I finally decided to have a talk with this kids parents...his dad particularly. I let him know if his child bothered my daughter again, I was going to come to his house and "bother" him...every time. And yes the police got involved...but amazingly that punk never bothered her again.

Sometimes you have to make the bullies parents responsible...they made them that way.

Administrators, counslers, principles don't really do anything until something bad has already happened. Bus drivers should be given some level of authority but have none in fear of losing their job.

Sadly, alertness to bullying will be high for a short time then back to the same old.

My daughter turned 5 this past June and just started school three weeks ago. She has been bullied on theplayground and on the bus so much already that last night she wanted to pick out a special outfit so the "bullies will like my clothes and stop being mean." She has been in fulltime daycare since she was 2 so she is used to kids, and yes we had some bullies in her 2 and 3 year old program and we were all of it. We found a daycare/school last year that didn't tolerate any of that behavior and it was heaven, but now that she is in Kindergarten we can't afford to pay to have her attend a private school, plus we beleive in public education. I work full-time and I'm going to take time off to be on the playground as a volunteer to try to stop this! What do you expect, when the leaders in our country can't even have a civil conversation. IT is so out of control.

We have to protect our children and teach them to protect others, not bully them. It's time for American parents to step up to the plate like this father did to STOP the child on child violence that is epidenic in this country. If a child does not learn empathy, he or she often perpetuates abuse as an adult in the form of domestic violence and/or violent crime. We as a society don't tolerate these adult behaviors, so why does our society allow bullying? Why don't we wake up, get our collective heads out of our collective a***s, take responsibility for breaking this cycle of violence and STOP the bullying?

This guy is a hero. Parents who are lousy as parents and should never be allowed to breed protect their "precious little darlings" who bully rather than submitting their own spoiled brats to severe discipline for bullying. When a real parent takes matters into his own hands to stop it, these loser breeders have no rights whatsoever, nor do their demon spawn, and should suffer the consequences. Too bad he didn't hit the bullies rather than just swear at them. The parents of these bratty crotch-snots who bully should be held legally responsible and should have to pay the price.

If your kid is being bullied they could be put in a martial arts class or at least taught how to go after vulnerable spots on the punk bullies. A shot to the family jewels will do it every time. The "My little Johnny" parents and the School District need to be held accountable. If it is true that the child has Cerebral Palsy, the little punks need their a$$es whooped hardcore.

The cop said the father should have called them. Why?? The cops wouldnt do anything!! The dad did the right thing. Kids (and adults for that matter) are way out of control. You cant count on anyone protecting your family but you!!! Give me a break with these cops! The always act like the would do something!! Its not even the cops fault. Society wont let them do their jobs anymore. And the people who think he was wrong are probably the same people who think criminals are victims. The dad shouldnt have made threats like that but I still say good for you. You stood up to protect your family. Thats a lot more than some people would do. And being picked on as a kid Fing sucks. Its bad enough to be forced to go to some lame school with a bunch of jackass kids. But to be picked on adds a whole nother degree of suckiness!! Hey Dennis you sound like someone I would want on myside:)

When I was 15 I stabbed a senior football player who was taking sophmore english over in the hand for repeatedly flicking me in the ear for over the course of two weeks. Yes I had told someone, teacher and an asst. principal, they chose to believe him whenever he said he wasn't doing anything and they never bothered to ask another student. I couldn't physically kick his arse, since I didn't gain my height or muscle til the summer of that year. In the end I got very lucky, and didn't get into any legal trouble after it was investigate. Now days I would have gone to jail.

In today's society where a girl takes her own life due to being bullied or worse a bullied kid brings a gun to school and takes the life of his tormentors a parent climbing on a school bus seems like the way to go to me. He probably shouldn't have said he was going to kill them if they did it, but then again maybe those little turds will never bully another kid again because he did.

And I don't nescessarily buy that whole it was never reported to the schools thing either. They will deny ever knowing about an issue or say they saw nothing whenever an issue like this arrises. In the case of the girl who killed herself after months of bullying and abuse by kids in her school, the school claimed to know nothing, yeah what are they blind and stupid?

I have no problem being arrested for protecting my family. One of my children has already graduated from college and my youngest has started his Freshman year at a University and have never experienced this. If anyone had ever threatened either of them to the point where they came home and told me that they were afraid, I can garantee that if I wasn't on the bus I would be at the parents house ensuring the safety of my children!

I grew up being a gay kid in a rural community. One of the first things I learned when I went to school was to try to be the first one off of the school bus and then run like hell. There really was nowhere to turn. Even my parents said "if you just wouldn't be like that they wouldn't keep beating you up." Finally, my dad taught me to fight. Perhaps it was a lousy solution, but it was the only one available at the time. I didn't always win, but once I stood my ground I was at least able to walk home...safely.

As a child in elementary school and Jr. High I myself was a horrible kid and bully before, during and after school and in my own neighborhood. I picked on those strong and weak, boy and girls, but for some reason I did take up for those with disabilities that were mainstreamed back then, and still do.

Many times the parents of the boys I picked on in the neighborhood came to my home in a rage yelling about how I treated their sons. It didn't do any good as my father always told me if I get into a fight don't come home crying as he would whip me good. He taught me how to fight.I was an angry child, bullied by my own father at home. It's what I knew…

I don't know why I stopped fighting and bullying in Jr. High. I'm a middle aged woman now, and back then the boys grew bigger than me and fast. I also didn't like the reputation I had built for myself and tried not to engage in such activities.

I think about those kids I hurt back then, and I feel the worst for it. I can never change the fact that I hurt them; I can never take it back. But what I can do is to say to all adults, not just parents it's okay to ask these kids "What's going on with you?" "Why are you so angry?"

Fighting violence with violence never works and does not create a learning situation for anyone.

Enough is enough. The dad is in the right. The day has come when we should actually stand up for our own children and not feel ashamed to do so.

Really, put a condom on the girls head, and the mom of the boy that did this is ok with it?????????

Notice the bus driver did not deny it,the bullying went on!!

We REALLY need to bring back spanking. These bullies believe they can do anything they want without consequence because all the authorities or parents do is give them a lashing with the tongues.

I was bullied and harassed on the bus years ago when I was in grade school and can totally empathize with the man and his daughter. Still two wrongs don't make a right. The man basically responded to the bullying of his daughter by being a bully himself. While that might have provided temporary satisfaction and relief, he modeled the wrong behavior as to how to resolve conflict, and likely set his daughter up for even more bullying once those bullying her realize that her father could not live up to his threats and was forced to back down.

Ray of Hope, My husband drives a school bus. In Minnesota, he by law isn't allowed to let parents on the bus no matter what the situation is. Yes, even in emergency situations he can't legally let a parent on the bus. Is this fair or right? No, but the law is the law. He has a duty to protect all of the passengers on his bus even the bullies. If he witnesses or is told about an incident of bullying he does everything he can, but sometimes his hands are tied.

All I can say about this is back in the late '60,s I was constantly bullied not only on the bus, but the classroom, on way to bus stop, on way home from bus stop everywhere. It was racial problems, but that really makes no difference. I was one of 5 white kids in the school. I have seen many stories about kids being treated the same being like one of 5 black kids making the news. I was thrown from seat to seat constantly. The bus driver couldn't do anything. Once I was beat so bad all I could do was play dead. I learned to block the pain which is a dangerous thing to not only myself but others had I gone into a rage. All the driver could do was to radio ahead to the school. I spent the morning in the school clinic, was sent home early but nothing happened to the kids doing it. I did nothing to deserve it. I could fight back, but not so many kids at a time. I would like to thank that dad for doing something about it. My parents did little throughout my 5th grade to 8th grades. All that changed was I was given a pass to ride the city bus system

There should be discipline these kids could receive like 'special' school, a locked jail cell for a few weeks...something. I guess a security officer baby sitter should also ride the bus each trip. The parents could be punished also. I know there are camera's on the buses now, not when I was a kid. There is the proof these parents kids are not perfect angles. Don't blame the bus driver. A lawsuit against the school, bus company or any time a contracted company is in charge of children would not be out of the question. I sure wish I could have sued. It has taken me many decades to finally get over those few years, but many hours of counseling and finally a treatment that worked gave me the peace I was robbed of. So, yes, the father was in perfect right to try to protect his daughter when those who were put in charge of her during school times, on the way to school, on the way home or any extracurricular activity. If she knew how to fight back, all that would have done was get her in trouble. I know, I fought back and was disciplined. It was strange to me why those who got me in rage enough to fight back got nothing. As I mentioned earlier, when a kid learns to block pain, it could be a very dangerous and destructive thing. That dad is a hero!

I don't see a problem with a parent defending his/her child. I've never had any of my own but I date single mom's a lot (giggity gi) :) . I've always enjoyed supporting them when ever they had to defend their children. By way of policies or having to take matters into their own hands and confront the bully's parents or teach the child to defend themselves. It's tricky, but when they've been taught that "fighting is bad", sometimes they need that "OK to fight when defending yourself" told to them. They can actually carry on pretty well.

In this case, there's a grayline that might've been crossed when the DAD breached the other kids' sense of security when he boarded the bus, some legal action might have to be taken. I personally will state, yeah, it's a risk you have to take, but it is one situation where the ends have to justify the means. Hero? No entirely. Criminal? Not so that either. Innocent or jailtime? I think it depends on the fact that no one was actually hurt. I've defended girlfriends kids from creepy boyfriends of my girlfriends sisters or friends. Sometimes emotional, sometimes with the know how in talking to the creepy guy. But not once do I call myself a hero. No more than I would carry myself like a Don Corleone.

This parent should really find an attorney that knows how to request video survelience footage of the bullying and post confrontation footage. Because, we're left to believe that the bullying stopped and all that's left is the problem with dad.

i agree i would have down the same thing as u can tell tha bus driver wasn't handling it.......

Dad should have watched his language as Im sure, angry or not, he wouldnt appreciate that towards his own daughter. Thats his only fault to me.

Im sorry, my son got bullied on SIX times by the same boy before the bully got suspended last year. It finally stopped AFTER that boy busted his nose. AND THEN THEY SUSPENDED MY SON FOR BEING IN A FIGHT in which they admitted he didnt hit the other kid, he was just involved in a fight?! He had stolen his books, pushed him down cement stairs, it was NONstop. A mommas precious baby boy got yelled at after he put A CONDOM on a little girls head and she is "angry enough to cry"? Are you for real? I wouldnt be able to show my face if my son did something so horrible and he would be unplugged and doing house and yardwork at the other kids house for the next six months!

Im "angry enough to cry" that this was done in the first place and was able to progress as far as it did. The bus driver should have stopped this situation before the girl got harrassed as she did. nor should he have EVER let ANY adult on that bus either. Dad couldnt have gotten in if the man had noticed the angry adult trying to get on. For Dad to hear the entire story and storm onto the bus how long was the driver there?!

The school system is supposed to have sensible adults in place to watch a situation. If all this can go on during the ride home and the driver cant supervise all the kids, well they need a parter adult to simply monitor the kids. We expect alot of them to monitor that many kids, maybe its time to put another adult in place simply to be there concentrating on behavior. You cant drive well with a cell phone and yet were expecting them to watch HOW many kids with both eyes on the road?

The father stepped up ... he did the RIGHT THING!!! What? Report it to the school? Report it to the police? ...... Paperwork, paperwork, paperwork ... meanwhile his daughter gets shamed on a bus ride to school?

The police arrested the wrong person! Perhaps if the police could actually do something about these out of control children, then these problems would not exist!

As someone else said, it's time to bring back corporal punishment. Parents should be responsible for what their children do and how they behave.

Bravo to this dad for protecting his daughter!

Maybe if parents took a vested interest in their children's behavior at school, then the bullying would decrease. Parents like to use the line "not my child", instead of facing the fact that their child is misbehaving. Or, they say "I will take care of it", and nothing ever changes. A lot of parents would rather be friends with their children, instead of teaching their children how to treat others. Maybe, thats because lots of parents tend to be bad examples for thier children. Parents should become more involved in the school, instead of blaming all the problems of kids on the schools.

I'd like to shake this man's hand...maybe the kid who bullied his daughter should be arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

The bullies who bullied the man's daughter should also be investigated for sexual harassment.

Why isn't the mother of the little monster boy who tormented this little girl ashamed of the way her rotten offspring behaved? Where's the dad of that bully? How proud that "Almost cried" mom must be that her son picks on a little girl with cerebral palsy and makes her life miserable.

I think the bus driver should be charged for child endangerment, and fired for failing to safely drive these children. The little monster bullying the little girl should NEVER be allowed back on a bus after behavior like that. I regret that the focus on the father is detracting from what is an epidemic - bullying. Parents apparently are not imparting enough human compassion to their vile little hoodlums that they can identify with how bad it is to hurt others, and it is unfortunate that all these animals can understand is more violence.

Skydog, you did the right thing by defending yourself and stabbing that worthless piece of garbage.

As a school bus driver, I would like to say the kids I currently have on my bus (high, middle and elementary students) are nothing like the children mentioned in this story. While I cannot see everything that goes on while I am driving, I try to let the students know I am willing to listen, not be judgmental and try to solve the situation before it escalates and gets out of control. There are also several cameras on our county's school buses and the DVD/video tapes can be viewed by school administrators if needed. These media are there for the children's benefit as well as the drivers. I always encourage the students to let me know if they are being bothered or harrassed by another student on the bus. There have been instances, not on my bus, where the police have been dispatched when a problem arose with an individual trying to board the bus who was not authorized to do so. I feel for the father trying to protect his child, but this was not the way to do it. As for the students who were doing the bullying, I hope this brings closure to this unfortunate incident.

Shame on the parents who ALLOW their children to BE bullies. I would take a hickory stick to one of mine if I ever heard they were bullying another child. But you see what happens here....the parents of the bullies get angry at the protecting parent, not at their little heathens.

I believe the parent was 100% in the right and I hope the parents of the bullies enjoy cleaning the racing stripes out of their future felon kids pants!

He just threatened them, using language that hit home, something all the wussy rationalization from wimpy administrators could not do. Express with authority once, otherwise capital punishment is the next step. Since when does ANY government functionary have authority over protection of ones child?

I agree but the Dad should've gone through the proper channels first and left a paper trail.

Go Dad! Bullies only respond to someone pushing back. Anyone tries anything on my girl and you can be sure my husband and I will not hesitate to protect our baby.

I think the dad did the right thing in confronting, however, to threaten to kill or hurt them is what he should not have done. He should have threatened to turn them over to the police for assault. They touched her in a harassing way, and hit her, so it is assault.

If it didn't stop then, he should call the police since the bus driver and school won't do anything. I've had to deal with bullies at my daughter's school, too. The teacher was angry about it, but I didn't care. I pulled the kids out of class and told them they were acting like a gang on the street would act. The "gang leader" ended up becoming a friend of my daughters instead of bullying her.

When in the 9th grade, I was severely bullied for being African and smaller in stature; it's funny looking back now that I was called "Nigerian Nightmare, Stinky, dummy" by all those cowards...

I really think that parents of bullies and bullied kids really need to take this issue seriously, because in some instances, it may never end in a good... as others have posted, I had to take matters in my own hand when it got too be too much to handle - I thankfully didn't have to take my own life, like the little girl earlier this year. I believe that my parents were complacent because they felt I should be able to handle it myself and that was how it was done in their days (mind you, I was 4ft something in grade 9 and 13yrs old)....

You know how I alleviated the situation? My younger brother who later came to the school was bullied to the point where his neck twisted causing severe muscle strain (by one of the bullies)... I went to these bullies enraged with a bat and got my revenge.... even though they fought back and I was hit several times, the years of bullying put me in a place of anger no kid should have. If I had a gun, I know that there's a strong chance I would have used it.... I was mad as hell - now older, I know I shouldn't have been allowed to get this upset.

I don't think any kid (even as little as I was) should be tormented to a point that they need a weapon to defend themselves - my final straw was these a-holes f-ing with my lil bro. You can pick on me, but to twist my bro's neck was a big no no... his neck hurt for more than a week (not being able to turn fully to one side - can't remember which); even though I'm now 31 and bigger the average guy... I know I'm still affected by those fools. I know the only reason why I bulked up is because of the torment suffered as a kid.

I blame both parents of bullies and bullied kids (in my case)... and also school administrators for having this situation affect victims the way it does.

I had a friend who's kid was 7 years old and had a group of 15 year old's hold him down and continued to fire air soft gun into his neck until his father came and smacked one of the offending kids in the back of the head. The police arrested him and convicted him of assault on a minor. The group of boys were never charged with any crime. So what good does it do to call the police.

I think everyone that agrees to an extent with the father should have a way to send at least one dollar to his defense fund. If we do not agree with the police and prosecutor then we can make a statement to them by funding the defense and making it all the harder for them.

A simple solution to bus bullying--parents should demand that another adult ride the buses. Most schools will refuse having another adult riding--but if enough parents signed a petition and presented it to the school board--they would have to follow thru. This does not solve the issue of bullying in school. A possible solution to that would be to have parents volunteer to monitor hallways-playgrounds and lunch rooms. We need to be involved!! When kids know someone is watching--sometimes they "think" before they act. Just a thought. Handleing this situation without swearing or threating would have been better BUT there have been times I have had to protect my children the same way. I have learned from my mistakes too. I hope schools see how big of a problem this is becoming.

When my daughter was bullied in middle school, I made the counselor call a meeting with the girls and their mothers. We knew them well since the girls had all been friends for years before 7th grade. The mothers were in denial and the girls flat out lied, but I was able to politely and calmly, but with anger and strength tell them to stop, that we were not going to put up with it anymore. I put them all on notice and that stopped the bullying behavior. The counselor at first didn't want to hold the meeting, because she didin't think we would get to the bottom of anything. The point of the meeting was to put everyone on notice, we all knew what was going on! It worked. So parents if you know the kids and their parents well enough to know that involving the school won't make things worse than go to the counselor and insist she do her job.

I also do not think that the police should have been called. These are middle schoolers who are not fully grown and what do the police know about child development? It should be the school in conjunction with the parents who handle these situations. I feel for the father in this situation, as I understand his frustration well.

I applaud the dad for standing up for his daughter. and I certainly understand his reaction. Bullying in schools has reached an all-time high, and neither school officials nor the police seem to be effectively addressing the situation. I am glad the dad scared the heck out of the bullies and their sidekicks on the bus. I'll bet they won't mess with his daughter again. Charging the dad with a crime would be a waste of taxpayer money. The resources would be better devoted to implementing measures to protect our children from bullies and the parents who have failed to rear their children properly.

The school probably can't help her. Their hands are tied by civil rights attorneys who make it impossible to discipline students. Parents who are not able to raise their children appropriately are in charge of the schools because they are bullies and the schools are forced by the courts to let them.

AMEN RayofHope!

SOMEBODY has to stop the B.S that happens in school every day.......they certainly won't....and haven't!

I agree wholeheartedly. Go Dad! So many bullies, so many children without proper parenting, then when called on they stick up for their kids rotten behavior. Schools you won't exist, everyone will homeschool someday if you can't shape up.

I also applaud this dad for trying to protect his daughter (who reportedly has cerebral palsy, and thus is a more vulnerable child). I would mention that he should have refrained from using profanity, however if the bullies were putting open condoms on his daughters head... they already know all about offensive behavior and hearing a little profanity is NOT the problem.

I agree with OFG...this dad owes an apology to no one, and if charges are brought against him, I hope he can sue the district's bus driver for allowing the abuse of a disabled student, his daughter. The emotional good he did for his daughter in sticking up for her will far outweigh any possible consequences of charges, in the long run.

Please MSNBC, keep readers updated on this story, and if charges are brought against this dad, let us readers know where we can send donations to help with his defense. Judgeing from comments here...this dad would have plenty of support.

GOOD FOR HIM!!!!!

Yes, maybe he should have left out the bad language, but as far as I'm concerned, that's his only sin. I was bullied for years and one of my fears is that my kids will get bullied and frankly, I am afraid of what I will do if that happens. The mother bear will come out to protect her cubs. The bus driver is an idiot - he/she is in charge of those kids just like the teacher at school. We would expect the teacher to take care of the situation so why not the driver? The driver needs to get strict - they all do - kick those unruley kids off the bus!!! Let their parents get them to school since they cannot follow the rules! This is bull crap! In my day of riding the bus we had white slips. When you misbehaved, you got one. When you had 3 your parents were advised that you were no longer allowed to ride the bus. The Public School Bussing is paid for by the tax payers. Our kids should protected no matter what. They should not have to worry about being harrassed on the dang bus. This really pisses me off! I am one hundred percent behind that man!!!!!!!!!

My 11 year old son was choked almost to the point of passing out. According to friends who witnessed it, the little punk who choked him was literally shaking with anger...for no reason. My son, who is no angel but would never hurt anyone, did nothing to antagonize this kid. Two friends pried this creep off before he did permanent damage.

All the kids were brought to the office, where my son and the two who helped him sat for 2 hours, while the little brat got a (figurative) slap on the wrist and returned to class. The other three (including my son, who had red hand marks around his neck) got told not to let it happen again.

The really disturbing part is we found out 5 days later at a graduation party. The school didn't have the decency to call us. My wife and I wrote letters to the principle, the superintendent, and each B of E member. We subsequently had a meeting with the principle to "clear the air", and were assured they were changing policy to combat bullying. Problem is we've had a zero tolerance policy against bullying for years. Now, the local paper had a big article stating the "new" policy against bullying.

To add insult to injury, the little bully's mother went to my kid, and several of his friends, and told them to stop bullying her son. Now, we had 3 aides support the incident as we heard it.

My point is parents are just as responsible as the kids when it comes to bullying. This family has a history of problems with all 3 of their kids. My guess is they were not raised to respect authority, or even to respect THEMSELVES. It breaks our heart to see how some kids are raised, and it crosses racial and economic lines. The schools are expected to "raise" kids instead of educate them. My only consolation, other than telling my son to defend himself, that now the whole town is aware of the problem, and the schools have no choice but to support zero tolerance. All eyes are on the Board, Superintendent, and Principle.

If one less child gets bullied, we feel vindicated. If I see fear in my son's eyes, we'll do the whole mess over again, with the police involved this time.

It's especially difficult because we live in a small town where everyone knows everyone else.

PATRIOT..i like that idea, everytime your kid bothers/bullies mine, i am coming to YOUR house to bother you! i love it :)

I say GO DAD!! These kids say they were scared when the dad yelled at them, maybe now they know what it feels like when they (the bullies) HIT & PICK on his daughter!

As a parent it is our enable able right to protect our children, especially when no when else will!

Nobody messed with my kids...more than once.

The father was well within his rights as a father to confront the kids harrassing his daughter. These were not 6 and 7 year old kiddies, they were teenagers.
The threats he made against the other students and the bus driver, however, were out of line and in hind sight, I'm sure he regrets what he said. But those of you who think the dad was too tough need a reality check, and quickly. The bus driver should be reprimanded for NOT paying attention to what was going on in the bus. Had the bus driver been the kind of driver I had as a kid, bad behavior would have happened ONCE. He had no problem pulling the bus over until the "whatever" ended. And when the bus pulled up late and parents were angry, he let them know exactly what happened. My guess is that either this bus driver is too much of a wimp OR the school has too many PC rules on the books to let that happen.

But for someone to suggest the dad should have gone to the sheriff's dept. is ludicrous. They'd have done nothing about it and referred the matter back to the school. The mother of the bully was so upset, she was in tears? All this "nice-nice" is revolting. Give me a break! There's something really wrong going on in that household. Boy, she sure sent a message to her son!

The dad let his anger get the better of his good common sense but I applaud him for standing up for his daughter. And it sounded like he did it immediately after the incident which will stay in the minds of those kids a lot longer. Most people parent their kids but it's the ones who don't that find themselves always bailing out their kids and making excuses for them as to why they can't lead productive lives.

the "authorities" should investigate the bullies and not the parent that defend his daugther and charge them with intentiont of sexual assault, tormenting and abusing her mentally and physically. They already had the condoms who knows what other things they were planning to do to the little girl. Maybe other parents take notice of the need to protect their children from this bullies . I dont blame this parent of the way he acted but when you see that nobody do anything to protect your daugther you don't think but squash the bullies like a bug. The parents of these bullies should be ashame of the behavior of their children and apologize to the girl and her parents.

Seems I'm not seeing too many people bad-mouthing what dad did. Gee, I wonder why!!! Perhaps the general public is sick and fed up with the inactions of the "powers-that-be" and are finally taking action into their own hands. I'm sorry to say this, but I wish I would see more "stands" such as this done, whether it be regarding bullying, or a whole lot of other BS that decent Americans have been "tolerating" for sake of being "civil". Even good, decent people have a breaking point.

Too bad more parents were not so concerned and involved with their kids lives. The only thing those Kids who were doing the bully work leaned from their parents in this is how to side step responsibility and be rewarded for their wrong behavior.

Then, 15 years from now, when the Judge hads down a 15 year sentence for Manslaughter/Agravated Battery charge on one of those little scum bags... Their parents and themselves will be pounding salt about how they grew up in a bad environment or were treated wrong by "The Man" who had his foot on their neck the whole way growing up.

And what is even funnier?

There will be a whole line of Bleeding heart's right there supporting all those excuses. Just so the next guy can end up in the same place... If the cycle is never broken... it will never end, it will only continue to get worse as the blame and hate grow.

And all it takes to fix the whole problem, if for EVERY PARENT to show the same care and concern for their Genetic Offspring.

But hey.... How can you POSSIBLY do that? The Man has his FOOT ON YOUR NECK... and you are powerless to do anything!...RIGHT?

OF COURSE you are! What was I thinking? I must be one of those damn Right Wing Nut, Tea Party loving, Racist Haters who don't understand how hard it is to get along?

Sure, Sure I don't understand.... I grew up NEVER being a victim of a bully and having EVERYTHING just GIVEN to me..... Ha!

it was true for my family about harrassment and bullying .my daughter was being touched by a 17 yr old on the bus at age 6 .the county probation office came to us and told us this . the authorities could not prove it ,and the bus driver did not see it happen . so the kid got away with it . my daughter was teased and picked on so bad at school in 7th grade that she had some type of a breakdown while in 7th grade. she just could not handle the harrassment . it took her a longtime to recover from that illness . she has been ok for the last 13 yrs . my son was beat up ,bullied,teased by classmates . he often had things that belonged to him taken from him . i spent alot of time at the school dealing with problems . i told the elementarry principal that your raising a bunch of thugs . she told me i did not know what i was talking about . there was time in the morning when the kids were unsupervised when the got off of the bus ,to when they went to their class rooms , and a teacher was there. this was when alot of the trouble happened for my son at the elementary. the principle did not see a problem with that issue . as much as i wanted to just take those kids and dicipline them my self , i could not ,due to the law . the school finally had cameras placed in the busses to help find trouble making kids .

storming the buss and swearing at the kids and bus driver was not the right thing to do . but i am sure it got his point across to those kids . the bus driver has to be careful to what action he takes , he could loose his job for acting in the wrong way . it is better if the driver would report it to the school and let the issues be talked over with the school board , than to do the wrong thing . but the driver has to drive the bus safely and keep a orderly buss too. it'sa tough job...

America should pay attention to the way the votes are swinging on this controversial topic. It is obvious that we as parents are tired of the way schools and police handle bullying in America thanks to the sue-happy parents and the disgusting PC standards with adult/child interactions today. Bullying seems to never be a big deal until it is far too late, such as the case for Phoebe Prince.

While it may have been wrong in some ways how the dad had acted, as a father myself I would be more than happy to get in any punk's face that was messing with my kids and would be more than happy to get in the kids' bad parents' faces, too. That man's heart was in the right place and he was doing what a father should do: protect his kids.

Someone has to do it, people. Both the education and legal systems are broken and a lot of parents have had enough. Anyone not siding with this man on some level is probably- a)not a parent, b)trying to defend themselves in their positions in the legal or education systems, or c)knowingly or unknowingly a parent harboring a bully

Do you know you Bus Drivers name? I (first day) My Wife (second day) introduced ourselves as the parents of OUR CHILDREN to the bus driver. We meet the bus in the morning and in the afternoon. Our kids driver loves it when we thank him. He appreciates being appreciated and thanked for his good driving and they're safe arrival. Thank YOU Frank!

I (Dad - When it's my turn) ask was there any problems (mine or others). The driver loves it when he/she knows their is someone on they're side.

Parent's - Meet the driver. Teach you kids to learn his/her name. Teach them to say hello; teach them to say thank you for the ride; teach them to be RESPECTFUL. Teach you KIDS!! Don't Expect other's to do you work - ie. the school. The job of the SCHOOL is to teach your children the 3rs. Everthing else is you're job.

For the guy that got sick and tired of little "turds" on the bus, I don't blame ya.. at all,... good job for creating this discussion that will hopefully get people on board with you. (I don't think you did a bad thing,... Just lost it; I would have too)... Not well done, but done.

R

The father was right as we have reached a stage where bullying is a matter of fact and no-one is taking it seriously and as a teacher i am witnessing it helplessly.

Although I may have not taken this action, I totally understand the father's frustration. As having been a "bus student" in the past, I know that kids can be pretty mean to other kids....the bus driver may be able to say "STOP" but that doesn't mean they will ALWAYS stop. Someone had to stick up for this little girl before things got worse....

Even a visit to the principal may have been worthless with these bullies....They needed to know that this little girl had someone to defend her....Yes, now dad will pay the consequences but I bet these kids won't bully her again..

It's fine and dandy to say 'teach your kid to fight back', but if they do that then guess WHO gets into trouble, especially if they have a 'zero' tolerance policy? Are you ready to accept the consequences of doing that, is your kid? It's never the one who does the bullying that gets in trouble or bullying wouldn't be as big a problem as it is.

What I did, was make sure my son's classmates know (because my son is what you'd refer to as a 'gentle giant' ) is that he is the leader in his Karate class and has my permission to beat the crap out of any kid who hits him first. So far they've left him alone, but I've seen them pick on another kid...I've told the school about it and if I see it again this year, I'm going to tell his parents. I made sure my son is not one of those kids and that he goes out of his way to say "hi" to that child (even if he refuse to be 'friends' with that child). It angers me that kids do this. I don't get it? As never participating in or being someone who got picked on, what's the point of doing this?

To all those praising this guy, I have to say I'm a little worried about your judgment. What kind of example is he setting for his children and those on the bus, that violence and threats are the answer?

kids are lucky... if it was me, would have been a bit more than just yelling, and too bad they were scared. Next time, sue the heck out of the school, seems about the only thing people care about now a days anyway. Sue the parents, call the cops, thats harassment, and abuse charges on the kids right there, another thing people can only seem to understand, being arrested, or slapped with a fine.

dont get me wrong here, i think the US is suehappy enough as it is, but, hey... if thats what it takes, go with the flow right? Funny how schools can suspend a preschooler for bringing a toy soldier to school for show and tell, and out of admiration for his father serving in the war... but they cant do squat when it comes to bullies, and knobs.

Angela LD

“I don't get it? As never participating in or being someone who got picked on, what's the point of doing this?”

Who is the most transforming figure for children? For most, it’s their mother and / or father. Bullying is a LEARNED behavior. You don’t need to look any further than all these forums and message boards, etc… to see how all too many adults treat others.

I don’t agree with calling these kids “scumbags” or other names that just inflames the situation. Be angry at their parents for not teaching them how to be civil in our society.

First of all, he should have contacted the school, and then the parents of the children, and if they didn't do anything about it, maybe the police, depending on how bad it was and on how old the bullies were. I was a teacher and one of my students committed suicide from being bullied. He was a ninth grader and had transferred into a small school district where almost everyone knew each other. I never knew there were problems and would have appreciated being informed about them.

When my middle son was in kindergarten he was bullied on his way to school. In those days a child could still walk to school on his own. Another boy in the morning kindergarten and his older sister would harass my son. I spoke to the teacher and she introduced me to the parents of the children. I explained what was going on and they put a stop to it. In fact my son and this boy became friends of a sort.

My granddaughter was being harrassed at her school. She had been home schooled until she was in second grade and so when she came to this school didn't know the other girls well, and they wouldn't let her play with them and they were quite nasty as only little girls can be. My daughter tried to work with the teacher but she was useless. Her second year there she made contact with the school counselor who was appalled at what was going on and handled the situation beautifully. My granddaughter still seems to prefer to play with the boys (she's now in fifth grade) but things are better, except for the fact that the bully is in her class room again this year. But my daughter made it clear to the teacher that he is NOT to sit next to my granddaughter, or in her line of sight so that he can be making faces or whatever it is he does. He is also not to work on any projects with her.

You have to keep trying. This man probably didn't know how to go about it. He was trying to protect his daughter but he went about it in the wrong way.

I should have also added two more things: Did the child make the bus drive aware of the situation? If so, he should have done something. But I imagine it is not easy transporting a big crowd of noisy children to and from school. However, if he knew something was going on and did nothing, then he was definitely culpable.

And what about that mother...the one whose son was the bully. She was irate when the father went after her son, as she should have been. But she said nothing about what her son had done that had cause the problem in the first place. Apparently that was ok with her. No wonder he acted as he did. He knows he can get away with murder and nothing will happen to him.

You go dad!!! You did the exact right thing to do because if you are waiting on the sorry ass school system to do anything your daughter could be dead... I know the school system by kids attended was a piss poor system pure awful . I think they need to close all public schools systems Private & home school is the way to go ...

Totally agree! The school system in FL needs to start taking control on "bullying" and getting involved instead of seating on their asses. If we look in the past years of events involving students who had been bullied, which led to tragic events, you will think that we have learned from this. Apparently not! As a father myself, I would had probably done the same too but what parent would not protect their own child from harm.

I was never bullied physically, but I've had plenty emotional bullying for a life time. From the ages of say 9 - 15 I was constantly harassed. First I was bullied because I was smarter than everyone else and more mature than they were. After that I went through a good depressed state and got teased about my looks. They also spread rumors about me being a satanist because I my world doesn't revolve around spewing the bible on everyone and several other things. Now it doesn't bother me, they were just a bunch of dumb @!$%#s that have a dead end future. However, what does bother me is went from having a 4.2 (ish? I'm not sure how much our grades were weighted on an advanced diploma but I know I had over a 4.0) to graduating with a 2.7 or 2.9. I simply hated going to school and didn't bother doing anything, and I believe that it ruined my chances with colleges. I never told my parents or anyone for that matter. You can't really do anything when they are just saying mean things, especially when the faculty bullies with them.

I could noit agree with you more. And the kids who are doing the bullying should be suspended. They get away with this knowing is going to be done to them. A persons character is built at home. Maybe the parents of bullying kids should t ake parenting classes.

Above, Paul says: "We REALLY need to bring back spanking. These bullies believe they can do anything they want without consequence because all the authorities or parents do is give them a lashing with the tongues."

Study after study has shown kids who are 'spanked' are the ones who end up being violent; being bullies. MORE violence is certainly not the answer. It sounds like there is already a major lack of parenting going on with the kids who are doing the bullying. Hitting them isn't what they need. They need parents to go to the effort to do some actual parenting.

Cheers to the dad who got on the bus to defend his little girl!! If anyone bullied one of my sons you'd best believe I'd be on the bus with some choice words for the bullies.

Most of us have had experience with bullies. Most of us applaud action taken against them. We must not let our emotions control our thoughts or actions. Suppose there had been an error on the father or daughter's part in identifying this particular boy. Suppose the boy was your son. That's just one of many reasons why this father's actions were wrong and illegal as much as many of us may sympathize with him.

The burden on many of today's parents is great. Often both parents must work one , sometimes two, jobs each while still trying to properly raise their kids. Without saying it is impossible, the kids usually come up drawing the short end of the straw. Both the bully and his victim. As difficult as it may be, that is something we must work hard to change. We could then become much more involved with our children AND their schools to control this problem. Responsible and participating parents wield enormous power with our schools as a united group.

For the record, my own experience with bullies leaves me emotionally charged as well. As the smallest boy in my school's entire 5th grade class, I was terrorized for an entire school year and the following summer by two much larger classmates. I got physically sick at the thought of returning to 6th grade where avoiding and escaping them would be so much more difficult. I finally decided that a beating(even it put me in the hospital or killed me) could not be any worse than my constant fear. I took matters in my own hands and ended their reign of terror. No child such have to go thru such a thing.

Teach your kid to fight at a young age. Bullies look for someone that is weak. If your son/daughter fights back they will move on to easier targets.

You cant always be there to protect your child - your child needs to learn to protect him/herself. My pops took me out before i went into 1st grade and taught me how to throw a punch and roll with one. When i did get picked on, a few well placed blows to the kid and i never had a problem again with a bully.

As I see it his only error was his choice of language.

As for the bully saying that he was scared he should thank his lucky stars that dad only warned instead of totally losing control

When my son was in the 8th grade he got jumped from behind by a kid in his class. My son was friends with a girl this boy liked. He called the girls house the night before and left a message on their answering machine stating he was going to beat my son up at lunch time. My son had a fractured thumb or wrist at the time and was wearing a removable cast. Lunch time came the kid jumped my son from behind and put him in a choke hold my son ripped his cast off and fought back. My son was got suspended for fighting and "he ripped his cast off" so he could fight. I was flabber gasted. I asked the principal why was my son getting suspended, he was defending himself. She had told me it was because he fought back, he ripped his cast off and he had been suspended before for fighting. I said "he was? Nobody ever told me he had been suspended before and I think you need to recheck his records!" I asked the principal if she would like to see the pictures of the broken blood vessels in my sons eyes from the choke hold, would she like to listen to the message left on the girls parents answering machine stating what this boy was going to do to my son I'm sure they would love to play it for her. My son didn't get suspended either did the boy he was a "good boy" his dad was a deputy sheriff in our town. The boys were on the same baseball team. At their next practice I went into the dug out, my son could not participate due to his thumb or wrist, but he had to attend. The boy was in there also all I did was look at the kid and shake my finger at him and he started apologizing to me. I told him to take a look at my sons eyes and apologize to him not me. He did, my son held no grudges neither did I the boys had been friends in the past and their friendship continued it was just a little different. This was all over a girl my son was buddies with not in "love" with and the other boy was jealous. I live in a small town and most of the kids are local kids that have gone from preschool to graduation together. It pi$$ed me off how the school handled this situation. The principal didn't want to hear my sons side of the story. She listened when I spoke because I had proof of who started it and I was willing to do something about it. Sometimes I think I should have raised a big stink about the whole thing, but it's done and over with.

I do not have children and reading your stories, I had no clue how bad it has gotten.

I do have nieces and nephews of school age. Thank God their father (my brother) is pretty similar to most of you parents. He would be like the guy who came on the bus. And he is intimidating at 6'3" 200+ pounds.

I will keep reading to see if parents have ideas why some kids are such bullies. Maybe there is a solution because this needs to stop.

Sometimes I think I should have raised a big stink about the whole thing, but it's done and over with.

In your case, I think you did the right thing because you got it to stop and that is the goal.

He has a right to protect his daughter!!!

This is what you get when the left runs things!! And don't anyone here try and tell me the left and the Unions don't run the schools.

Seems like a lot of the people in these posts are saying, is that if you don't like something or how it is/isn't dealt with through channels, develop and implement whatever solution you feel is appropriate.

Do what I do. Catch the kids bullying or have another kid verify the abuse. Tell the school and teachers. If that doesn't stop it, I introduce myself to the offending parents and explain that if the abuse doesn't end now I will be visiting the man of the household at some point and he will be the one with bullying troubles. It is simply a case of he said she said at that point if they call the authorities. But.. even if I ever did get into trouble which i haven't yet, it is worth it to protect my kids. I can guarantee you dad doesn't want a fat lip because his kids think they are untouchable. Either way I can guarantee positve results for the abused family that has a guy willing to get into a fistfight lose/win or get in trouble with the law (no school board in the world will be able to ignore a parent who has made multiple reports about abuse and then punches the offending parent-the truth will come out.you may get a court date to explain but its better than your kids having no friends or contemplating suicide. No i dont need anyone telling me violence isn't the right way. I am not violent, I just had to figure out a way for the correct people (the bullies parents) to understand their kids wont pay the price for poor parenting, the parent will.

Dennis I fully agree the father should never have got on that bus and threatened the kids, there or anywhere. He should have, as i have, threatened the parents with bodily harm (after doing everything else in his power) to alert the teachers authorities etc... and get it to stop. Parents are the ones who manage/discipline their children not the police and certainly not the school system. Pop the kids dad in the mouth and you have a resolved bully situation. unfortunately this doesnt work for bully's with single mom's or bully's with dad's that are NFL linebackers. But for most of us it takes care of the problem.

Bullying can actually be beneficial. It prepares one for the adult world.

AKRandy- this is what you get when the Left runs things? Seriously? How did this become an outlet for your political views? Just because you don't like something it's the fault of the 'other side' of the political spectrum? How childish of YOU.

But, since you bring it up, I think you should look up a non-partisan study by Satoshi Kanazawa which links bullying and bullying attitudes with conservatives and republicans.

perhaps the parents that are so incensed about what this father did, should review their parenting skills. obviously, they are not teaching thier children that it is not acceptable to bully anyone, let alone a person of handicap! shame on you and your bully!

Sometimes a parent needs to scare the little sh!ts so they will stop. I think the man did the right thing cursing and all. It shows the kid that there are people out there that aren't going to put up with his\her sh!t.

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The sad thing was that the bus erupted in laughter from this incident... not one of those lil kids on the bus stood up for this lil girl... no wonder the dad went berserk on all of them. That must be really sad for the girl.... what those bullies endured is nothing compared to what they do to this girl on a daily basis. There was another article where the girl had been placed on Suicide watch because of the bullying...

So anyone who disagrees with this dad, imagine your child being bullied by the entire bus, and now she's on suicide watch... you go to the administrator and nothing's still done.. you change her school and the same thing happens... what to do then? Home school? what if you dont have enough money... just let the bullies get away with it? AS A PARENT, I THINK I WOULD ALSO GONE ON THAT BUS....I may have used better words and not threaten to kill.... but I would have spoken to those kids and their parents (if possible). It needed to be done.

Watch out world...All the posters above advocate beating young children. What happens when little Johny in Kindergarten takes a block from little Size? You going to grab them up and smack them around? I hope someone seriously understand the difference between a middle school child and an adult male. I wish someone would have the audasity to speak to my child out of my presence like that. I will make sure they never speak like that to another child. Bullying is wrong, so you advocate that certain times it is fine. Who elected you to decide for everyone who can bully who? Please, step onto my childs bus and you will be looking at not only some prison time but you jus tmight be losing everything you own to pay for my kids therapy. My kid is not a bully, I have had to deal with the bully incident before though. Of course I must have handled it wrong since I actually did what this father admitted he did not do...I reported it.

Like I said PLEASE storm onto my kids bus for any reason besides saving the children from death and you will never do it again, I promise that!!!!!

I wonder how many of you have hit your kids today. I bet youe kids are all angels, at least in your eyes.

Dennis,

It's just quite sad that it is the world we live in today... where a kid (or kids) can torment another to a point where the victim seeks counseling... it seems that most adults are arm-strung on what they can do out of fear of law-suits, like you proposed that you would do if someone talked to your bullying kids that way.

First thing you need to worry about is why your kid is such a dick~! not why the father is mad enough to talk to him. Firstly, the daughter has been daily tormented, and the father rightly talked to him. Like I mentioned earlier, I had to take matters in my own hands when no adults listened - you wouldnt want that for your kid... and with today's laws, that's all option that is let for the victims: either fight back the only way you can...or just keep on being tormented to a point where you take ur own life.

Even if you can sue because someone goes on the bus to speak to your kids; it doesn't make you right... it just shows how azzbackwards our society as become. In reality, your bullying kid, should be arrested for being a dummazz, and the your kid should be taken away from your because of your bad parenting. I didn't mean to be too harsh... but like I said earlier, being a bullied kid, it's the only way I can express myself.

...dad doesn't want a fat lip because...

No, he doesn't. The risk this idea runs is that, unfortunately, his solution may be a baseball bat, or an automatic, as needed. In some ways, we seem never to have left the cave man days...

Dennis371-What a crap filled post. The people who were wrong were the kids who torment a disabled child daily because she is different. Watching the video where the whole bus erupted into laughter at this girls torment, fills me with sorrow, makes me heartsick, and when I try to feel that little girls pain I can only imagine what she must have felt like at that point and knowing that she will remember this moment in time like a movie in her head for the rest of her life, leaves me so sad. And I want to come and beat the shi* out of the hoodlums who perpetrated this crime against her humanity. You are just ignorant and I feel there is no hope for you to feel anything in the way it should be for this little girl or others like her or feel anything except for yourself and the brats you are probably raising.

I have the sick feeling that these kids will be doing jail time in the future probably for using the condoms they have in their possession at age thirteen to rape and destroy another girls life, will she be a helpless disabled child I bet you that they don't care as long as they get to do anything they want without impunity

Watch out world...All the posters above advocate beating young children. What happens when little Johny in Kindergarten takes a block from little Size? You going to grab them up and smack them around? I hope someone seriously understand the difference between a middle school child and an adult male.

There's a big difference between a kindergartner taking his classmate's toy without asking and a group of a middle school kids sexually harassing and abusing a disabled girl.

For the record it is ILLEGAL for anyone to board a school bus except students and administrators. The parent was wrong and deserved to be arrested.

Thank You Transportation Director for making that point PERFECTLY clear!!! In some states it is a FELONY OFFENSE to step on a school bus!

As a bus driver with 13 years experience, I can whole-heartedly say, Yes bullies exist, but their behavior can be controlled on a bus.....

Offenders are assigned the FRONT seat by the driver and they are not allowed to move back to be among their peers until they can show they have self-control!!

Elementary students should be to the front of a bus....Middle school in the mid section...and High school to the back. And EVERY STUDENT should have a permanently assigned seat throughout the school year! Identification on bus video is easy if this policy is used.

School Transportation Director--Why don't you go sit on some buses for a while and see what goes on?? Just random buses, unknown to the bus drivers & students. Do it for a year, rather than sitting behind that big desk of yours and see what happens. You probably don't know HALF of what goes on in these buses of yours! There are some good bus drivers who will actually do something about the bullying (I'm lucky, as two of my kids have bus drivers who do stop the bus & get things under control).

JDM, I concur. School transportation director is either a fake or a typical government employee that sits on their but and gets a check without ever earning one.

I get that he shouldn't have stormed onto the bus, but he was angry and everybody is ignoring the problem at the root of this. But because now everyone is up in armss about the dad yelling at the kids, nobody will do anything to stop the bullying

Cindy -

I will take your word that you run a tip-top ship when you are entrusted with other people's children, but it is more common that there is still stuff going on in the back of the busses that other drivers don't see or choose to ignore. They will only yell at these children if they are standing up or moving around. You'd be amazed at the amount of torture that goes on without the bullies ever having to leave their seats. And some kids are too afraid of retaliation to say something.

Every driver, every administrator needs to take a second look at how much they are really observing. And of how much control they are really taking with these kids. When a child goes of to school it is the school's responsibility to make sure all the kids are well treated. If they are not behaving then it becomes the parents responsibility to discipline their kids once the school notifies them.

This bud driver obviously didn't do their job if that kind of behavior went on.

School transportation director:

Yes it might be illegal, but we parents are tired of the schools not doing anything plain and simple. I see incidents swept under the rug and ignored until something goes too far. You knew about it(the school) then you pretend you care by writing a few more rules. pretty soon parents will have to drop their kids off at secure locations as to protect the "little $hits" who started all this crap.

Start growing a pair and stop being afraid to expell permantely the bad apples.

Then you will not have incidents like this.
I blame the school- they should bring back corporal punishment!!!!

Uhhhhhh... WRONG my friend.... The Bus Driver was Wrong for not getting up off their butt and doing anything about this in the first place. That is the person that should have been arrested...Or maybe, you should have been arrested for NOT stressing to the dirver to take control of their bus?

He's a jerk? Parents who don't control their bullying spawn are jerks. And so is the bus driver. Obviously, they has been going on for some time and the bus driver did nothing about it. When it happens, he should pull over, dump the bullies out, leave them on some dangerous street, and call it in and let their worthless breeding parents come and find them before someone else does and gives them what they deserve.

Dad boards school bus to accuse bullies http://on.today.com/d2RqCa
My son was bullies by a girl on the bus and the dad of girl confronted my son it was over the food in his lunch box. I called the bus to see if my son was in the wrong. The bus driver say it was the girl hit him in the head and kicking him in the privates. So when he was standing at the bus the dad pull up and confronted my little boy who is only nine years old. So I called the mom and she said the samething that you said. I was protecting my little girl. But actually her little girl victimism my son. And then the dad victimism him again. I call the school and both children was talk to.I could have talk to the little girl but she just a little girl. So when do you reliaze there only children. You should have call the school. It is not your right to victism the boy he just a little boy. The parent of the little girl may never realize her little was guilt of treating my little boy badly. I guess she learn as repeated complaniant come in about her little girl. Just because there girl does not give them the right to abuse or phiscal abuse a boy, And you give message that if she cries it doesn't matter what she does. That she can treat boys any way she want because she a girl. You should have call the school and talk to the bus driver to see what actually happen. Maybe she was innocent and maybe not! An you are the adult you are suppose to show you little the promer channel in which she is suppose to handle problem.

Tell the bus driver that and I'm pretty sure that they say they don't get paid enough for that...while I was in high past year another student thought they would bully me because I was smaller and we started fighting. The bus driver did absolutely nothing except drive while we fought and other family members got into the fight.

For the record it is ILLEGAL for anyone to board a school bus except students and administrators. The parent was wrong and deserved to be arrested.

And as a mandatory reporter we're I involved at all I would be forced to file a report against the bus driver, the school principle and superintendent for criminal neglect in not protecting this man's daughter from the bullies.

Your comment is the best!!! The school is responsible for the kids when they are not in your care. I hope they take lots of heat from this.

I am a bus driver and oh I wish we could pull over and tell them to get off the bus but I would lose my job in a second.. The parents are the center of all the bullying going on. They are all afraid to say no to their kids. We had one mother call the school and tell them that the bus should arrive earlier because their child does not have enough time to socialize in the morning. We now have to stop at pretty much every house even though there are sidewalks. come on now, I walked a mile to 1st grade. I always let the kids know that if they have any problems they can hold back on the bus and then let me know while they are getting off. I do the best I can to help them out, if I report it to the school NOTHING is done. they just take the child into the office and tell them to stop, not going to happen, I have found over the years that the the kids are getting bolder and fresher younger and younger. I have some kindergartners that don't hesitate in telling me what to do. Let me tell you, they may get away with it with there parents but I won't put up with it. The will sit by themselves in the front without talking to anybody. The biggest problem with these billies are their parents.

For the record it is ILLEGAL for anyone to board a school bus except students and administrators. The parent was wrong and deserved to be arrested.

Bullying is also illegal. The bullies who assaulted the guy's daughter deserve to be arrested.

Your and idiot. Plan and simple.

Bus15, i Undrstand what you're going through. I know schoolbus drivers who go through the same thing. Some of them went public and when that happened, and the school adminstrators ended up with egg on their face, things changed. Some were threatened with firing for reporting publically what was going on and nothing was done and they threatened to sue. Case closed. The negative publicity made both the school administators and the bus owners capitulate because they don't want to deal with the publicity or the cost of court dealings. You hang in there!

I disagree, Robin.

Clearly the idiot is the one who wrote "Your and idiot. Plan and simple".

It's not possible for the director to sit on the bus without others knowing. However, the bus driver should have been suspended at the very least for allowing that stuff to go on and not stopping and/or reporting it.

If the school or the bus driver were looking after the mans daughter then the dad would have never had to board the dam bus in the first place idiot. It's dummies like you that are the reason these kids are getting away with picking on other kids!

For the record I'll tell you that if any boy ever did that to one of my daughters, there would be NOTHING the pansy a$$ bus driver could do to stop me. Go ahead, threaten parents with a felony. You honestly think that would stop any father who's worth a damn. There is nothing short of killing me that would prevent the protection of my daughters. Next I would go and have a nice intensive visit with the boys father, but in this case, I would guess the mother doesn't even know who that is.

The drivers have control, the children are angels, so why are there cameras showing up on more and more school buses? I'd like to know who views the recordings, is it done daily and what is the punishment for the angels that are the devil in disguise?

A parent yelling at someone else BRAT is needed, because in today's society the kid rules the parents and the home....spoiled little brats! I would have kicked my sons a$$ if he would have ever bullied a kid in school. He is now 20 years old and a lot bigger than me and I would still kick his a$$ if I were to find out he was making someones life miserable. I taught my son to RESPECT others and do not judge people by how they look or the brand of their clothing!

Lolly - Bus drivers need to pay attention to the road and their driving - NOT bratty kids. School systems should hire bus monitors if the problem is so bad.

I suspect there are way more bullies because there are may more people who think they are above everything and no rules apply to them.

And as a mandatory reporter we're I involved at all I would be forced to file a report against the bus driver, the school principle and superintendent for criminal neglect in not protecting this man's daughter from the bullies.

I do not believe you are a reporter or maybe you are a Newsvine reporter.

"we're" should be "were."

"principle" should be "principal."

School Transportation Director

He has EVERY right to protect his daughter!! I hope you ARE FIRED as you are part of the problem .

The problem with expecting the schools to do anything about it is that they are incompetently run by people that couldn't qualify to manage a McDonald's.

I remember getting a call from the principal at my son's school telling me that he had been suspended for violating their "zero tolerance against violence policy" by breaking up a fight between 2 bullies and their victim. She assured me that he was a great kid, and had done the right thing, and she was very proud of him, but the rules were the rules and he had to be suspended anyway.

We have people who mindlessly follow the rules unable to think for themselves trying to teach our kids to be the same way.

I can see them instituting a strict "zero tolerance policy" against violence and canceling their football programs because of it. Imagine a basketball game where the penalty for fouling is expulsion from school!

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated!

Bus drivers need to pay attention to the road and their driving - NOT bratty kids.

They need to do both. If something's up they should pull over and get up to investigate.

AK randy I'm with you. I was bullied on a bus and followed off a bus one day by a bunch of bullies and ofcourse was forced to defend myself on the street I disembrked on. In some countries school buses have both a driver an a disiplinarian to ensure the student's behavior. This works well, bullies who do not stop their harassment are simply reported and expelled.

The cowards are the bullies picking on vulnerable children. The cowards are the parents of these bullies who pretend like their kids are so innocent. The cowards are the bus drivers who allow this behavior to happen. The cowards are the teachers and administrators who model this behavior and allow it to happen. The dad is a hero.

Very well said RAINMOMPORTLAND!, I have a middle schooler who has been bullied for years. I have really stepped up and put an end to it, I will contact the teachers and principals until they are sick of hearing from me, I will go to any length to protect my child. I do understand how this dad is feeling, he just went about it in the wrong way. NO CHILD DESERVES TO BE PICKED ON! CHILDREN ARE THE WORST BULLIES!

You say that the parent is a coward while you say to hide behind the skirts of a lawyer and police? What if they refuse to execute demands for charges as "kids will be kids" If all the lawsuit lottery lamebrains would stop, maybe schools could do something. The law demands thiese future felons STAY in school rather than boot them out. My kid ended up in a private school for just that reason. The bully got 15-20 after his 18th birthday for assault and drugs. Hope he make lots of friends there!

Dennis - the father did what the parents of the bullys didn't do. He let them know what they were doing was wrong. If the other parents had taught their children in the first place, the father would have had no reason to board the bus.

no one's a coward for defending his or her own child, dennis. he was a hothead. and like i said before. i'd do it. but not on the bus on camera in front of witnesses... little puke needs to get throttled to see how it feels, because he has not empathy or compassion for someone weaker or smaller.

The dad had some balls to do what he did but unfortunately he handled it badly. It's a shame when we as parents put our trust and safety of our children in the bus drivers who are now pretty much ignoring what is going on more than likely for fear of getting involved and possibly losing their job. I am a father to 2 small girls and I would be enraged as well if other kids were putting OPEN CONDOMS on her head and physically striking them.

Dennis hopefully you are not breeding as you sound like you would either encourage your children to be bullies or fail to stand up for your children. I agree that you should talk to school administrators when possible, but if some kids did that to my daughter I would go to them and their parents that is usually the best way to end it.

Exactly, why are cowards allowed to reproduce? Cowards just like you that get on their soapbox and point out all the problems after the fact.

Dennis, you are typical of the bully coward that is the root cause of most problems in America.

Common Sense and Decency was never taught to you for sure.

Dennis, you obviously don't have children and if you do your child or children must be the bullies you are wanting to protect. The dad went about it the wrong way but he was protecting his daughter and that is what a parent is supposed to do.

Dennis: Spoken like a former bully, the fact that you have no sympathy for a little girl with cerebral palsey being bullied on the bus by older boys is a pretty good indicator that you do not see how wrong that is. So...the parents of the children on the bus should seek every possible avenue of retribution against someone yelling at their child, but the father of a handicapped child being abused by her peers is a whack job for defending HIS daughter, yeah that makes sense...not.

Dennis

Let me put a condom on your childs' head. Or we can have my child place the rubber on your childs' head. Calmly write down what the resulting feeling is for both you and the girl. We can have a nice calm legal proceeding about it.

Ever see Samuel L Jackson in that movie where he guns down the guys in the courtroom after they assaulted his daughter? Those guys got off easy in my opinion.

There is a primal instinct within you just like the rest of us. Stop living in denial man. If you don't like being human start believing in reincarnation and hope like hell you are a butterfly next time around.

That dad swore on a bus full of kids that already know damn well all about profanity. Booooooooo hoooo waaaaaaaaaaaa. Spare us the drama.

If anyone finds a legal fund for this man link it on a top posting please.

Dennis:

You certainly can throw the word coward around. Is it because maybe it hits too close to home? I have dealt with my share of bullies between my kids and my grandkids. The schools have a tendancy to turn there heads because they are strapped for resources and this is just another thing pulling at the depleted resources they have. I don't have an answer as to how to fix the bullying problem, but calling a father a coward because he is trying to protect his child is not the answer. Maybe we need to all go the the local schools and find out what WE can do to help the schools with this ever increasing problem before some child decides to take it into his own hands like Columbine and others.

Listen, Douchebag Dennis. Hopefully your sperm is just going in a tissue, into the garbage and NOT REPRODUCING little tiny dumbasses like yourself. This little girl had cerebral palsy. They did tell the school about it but, OH MY GOD the school did nothing. Wow... this sounds just like America these days... a father can't even stand up for his daughter. And kidnapping? You're just stupid. The busdriver didn't do anything, the school didn't do anything, and I don't know if you live in central Florida like I do, but you can't change schools do to overcrowding. She was stuck between a rock, a hard place and a @!$%#ing cactus. You can't call the police because it's a "school issue". Keep your idiocracy to yourself.

Dennis is not a parent and if he is, he's most likely the parent of a bully. Probably was one himself.

Dennis is just ashamed he cannot reproduce...

Dennis, I say you are the coward and very likely a bully your self. I bet if you have any kids (God forbid) that they are too. Get a lawyer and press charges, but do not correct your little precious who put a condom on a little girls head (where did he get the condom? At school?)

School bus transportation guy get off your butt and go see what these kids are dealing with. You couldn't do it.

Bus driver we pay your salary and we bought that bus, we should be able to board it anytime we want to. Especially to tell the bulling cowards who are doing unspeakable thing to our kids (a condom!! Rape the next step in this little coward's (Alonzo) resume?

Aileen Brundidge you should be ashamed of your child and punish him. You are contributing to his sense of "I am above the law" thought process. You'd better wake up before he ruins his life, your life and someone elses. Many killers, and rapists started out just like this. Outrageous you say? Maybe not.

I have no kids but have a friend with a son who was bullied. She reported it, she talked to other parents, nothing was ever done for him! They swept it under the rug. She finally blew a gasket when he was thrown off his bicycle one day by one of the bullies and she picked up a golf club and smacked it against her hand and said she would smash his f**g head in if he ever even looked at her son again. Needless to say, he never went near him again. If this is illegal, I'm all for it. She had a wonderful son who grew up to be a wonderful young man and he never deserved any of the bullying he suffered. If the parent has to take it into their own hands then so be it. Most of the bullies parents are in denial anyway (not MY son/daughter! They would NEVER do that, yeah right!) I'm for this parent. The Seminole police should leave him alone.

Dennis probably would stand up for himself or his family. Glad I wasnt raised by someone like him!

Dennis your a jackass:)

This Dennis wonders why cowards are allowed to reproduce.
Others may wonder the same things about his parents.

The whole notion of controlling who reproduces
begs the question, though: Why allow these bully sorts to reproduce?

I'm sorry but that is the old way of handling things....what he should have done was get in someone's pocket by suing the sh** out of them...people seem to come togther when it's about money.I agree that was better than going to the administration but now he has created more problems for his self making it harder to stop the bullying of his daughter he should have sued the admin. or the parents.

I think we just met a parent that has a "perfect child" Would never do anything wrong.................one that knows he can bully and his parents would stand behind him.

Yeah, Yeah, Mr. Dennis Sue-Happy:

You sound like you are one of those parents that would never believe your child would do anything inappropriate. You were probably a bully as a kid and are one as an adult. If that were your daughter what would you do? That is something you should think long and hard about. As you see repeatedly, the school authorities do not seem to do anything regarding bullies. They seem to look the other way!

The teachers are afraid of some of the kids, not to mention their parents! Then there are the bus drivers..they are treated like second class citizens, have no power, and are responsible for the lives of all these children on their bus. The students verbally abuse the bus drivers who like the teachers, are not getting paid enough for their responsibility to drive you little Johnny and Susie to and from school and keep them safe.

You said cowards should not be able to reproduce, I say BULLIES should not be allowed to reproduce! You are on the wrong side of this discussion, but you are too ignorant to see WHY the dad confronted the bullies.

Dennis..... One day you will get to talk to your perfect child through the glass. By phone.

If you have a child, you're entitled to jump om a school bus of 11 to 13 years olds and pick one, grab them up and start beating them to a pulp.

I love how you completely ignore the child being bullied and chastize the father for defending his daughter.

To the guy who said the bully's parents should sue the father for terroristic threats, etc., because he would if he was a parent of one of the kids:

GET OVER YOURSELF. You're a typical loser who would embelish any siutation and waste our taxpayers' money and bring it into the judicial system!

I probablywould have jumped on the bus to protect my child, then gone over to the bullies' parents house and laid into them for raising their children badly.

Parents of rotten brats blame everyone else for the behavior. You can always tell which parents go with which children. There is NO discipline these days! Crazy children run rampant in restaurants and public places, and the idiotic parents sit there and watch. Lazy parents breed bullies.

Oh - Hey Teen 30! Are you sue happy or what? Suing isn't the answer. If you have kids, they are probably bullies. If you don't, they will be.

He didn't touch a child....he yelled at them! Perhaps if their parents had done a little more yelling they wouldn't be bullying a little girl!!

I've never been a parent to say "my precious little angle could never do such a thing!!" nor will I ever be! But I have been a parent to teach my child right from wrong and tolerance of others! Perhaps you should do the same!!

Dennis, If my child was bullying another child, and I was unaware of it, I would have no problem with an adult scolding him enough to scare him into re-thinking his actions. Of course, I would rather be notified of this beforehand, but bullying is never OK. Do you have children? Do you let them bully others? One can only guess by your posts.

Obviously, Dennis, you're the parent of a brat that bullies and will go out of your way to support your demon spawn. Maybe if you spent some time taking care of the things you had plop out of your wife's body, rather than focusing on your "career," you and your wife and your crotch-snots might be worth something. Kids aren't major household appliances to make you and your wifey feel "fulfilled." They're human beings you have the responsibility to turn into positive human beings. If you're not willing to do that then get rid of them and get yourself a parakeet. It'll probably bite, but at least it'll be locked up in a cage.

Elizebeth- Yes, I had a child. I am very active withmy child at school and have never had problems with them. I wrote in another posting that I do have a kid and would tan their hide if I found out about any bullying. I would never give any adult to threaten my preteen child with harm. Scolding is one thing, what this guy did was just uncalled for. To defend these actions says to me that there are either double standards or there some sadistic parents who want violent adults charging school buses and threatening the kids. What happens next time if the parent shoots an eight year old because little suzie thought lkillte Johnny pulling her was bullying when he was expressing his interest. Girls love being vengeful...I'm sorry the little girl claims she was bullied...even though they never reported it. But, the adult was acting like a child and every parent on here that condone any adult to threaten you child needs to remember that you will be the first to cry about why isn't the school protecting my child? Oh, you're already making complaints while condoning the exact same activity.

Such hypocrites!!!

Hey at least Dennis came back to finish the argument he started. Cudos for that. Majority of Newsviners either don't come back to things or they come long after the fire has gone out.

I reckon it is fair to say that we all have a different understanding of 'violence' and we all have a different tolerance towards it. We should try our best to respect everyone and their threshold but a line must be drawn somewhere.

The dad did not go on that bus and slap, grab, spit on, shoot, stab, urinate on, molest, light on fire, or pistol whip anyone. He screamed at a bunch of bratty little sickos that deserved it and worse. They deserved worse yet he merely screamed at them and nothing more. He did all this while seeing red. In his mind they threw the stones and turning the other cheek was not an option.

To put it lightly, this man is father of the year. If something this disgusting and sinister ever happens to your children Dennis I do hope you handle it more like him and less like you. Of course nobody on this blog actually wants this to happen to your children Dennis. This is one of those "if" scenarios.

Do not make this dad a villian based on "if".

Dennis- You're an idiot. Probably one of those people looking to get a check for nothing. That's the problem with our country today; left wingers like you. The father was protecting his child and he openly admitted he said things he shouldn't have. Get a grip. Imagine if it was your child getting bullied though with your perverse view, I wouldn't doubt yours does the bullying. Mad props to this Father- if he needs a lawyer, I will gladly assist with his bill.

And Dennis- Seriously, look at the "charges" you brought up... He didn't hurt anyone: Just scared the crap out of the little brats. Have you never threatened to spanks your kid for being a dink? Sometimes it takes a wakeup call and in my opinion, that's all he did. So, please for the love of all that is good in this world, drop your "holier than thou art" attitude and come to the realization that with today's politics sometimes it is necessary to take matters into your own hands.

You say he taught the daughter that violence was ok and she would be the one hurting even more if her father went to jail? Really? I think the daughter just got a notion of exactly how much her daddy loves her. Sure, he went about it the wrong way but we all make mistakes.

Dennis, you must be the parent of a bully (and/or one yourself). That's going too far, so you must feel threatened somehow.

Any story that you read about it, it says that she was a disabled child with cerebral palsy. You're one of those people that if you saw evil things being done, like a little disabled girl being bullied by older kids, you would just say "oh, that sucks". A month of being tortured, the kids should have criminal charges, not the parent that stood up for what is right. Corporal punishment should be in schools again. You are proof of what America is today. An idiocracy!

you think that if THIS MANY people disagree with you, you would realize you're an idiot.

Patrick- I don't need your approval for anything. Please stop idolizing this man for bullying some preteens. When does he need to make a complaint about the bullying? After he terrorizes a busload of children? How about he how about everyone grow up and stop advocating adults to storm a bus full of kids. He should have taken his happy but and drove his daughter to the school and gotten with administrators and singles them out as they got off the bus. There is never a time when a child that is going to school should have to fear that some crazed parent will storm a bus and threaten them.

Next time the parent might shoot a kid...wouldn't that be justice...I can see the headline now

Parent shoots kindergartner for taking a block from his daughter. The parent say it was self defense bacause the school refused to send the young bully to juvy until 18. There will be a legal fund set up to hire a legal team to prove the kindergartner charged the parent and left him no choice but to put 12 shots into the childs back.

Keep advocating adults committing these acts and you will eventually see a story like this. We are suppose to be a civilized society and you advoate a parent doing the exact same thing he claims is so wrong.

So Dennis....if a child brings a weapon onto a school bus, and threatens a child's life, then the bus driver should continue driving to school (as long as it doesn't interfere with driving to school) and wait to fill out reports? And the parent shouldn't be permitted to physically protect his/her child? Reports, reports, reports! Stop putting your faith in paperwork. Parents must take action. Children are precious.

In America, we've had TOO many fatalities, and we only talk about it on Oprah when something drastic happens. I think....I know consistent parental intervention and guidance could have prevented ALL of the school tragedies that have happened. A lot of these occurrences go unreported. I wish more parents would stand up and protect their little ones! Don't wait to do it...don't be sorry when you do it...

Way to go Mr. Dad! You're a hero!

William- Keep politics out of this. I expect to see you in the paper someday for "Taking things in your own hands" when you harm a child. Since you say you have no problem with adults abusing children. I can threaten to spank my kid, you don't have that right. Since you think you know the law...how many years would you get for striking my child?

All the charges I brought up were able to be applied. Look them up Mr. Law.

new mom- show me ANY story that mentions she had crebral palsy. That was made up by posters to make her sounds more innocent. Go and look at all the stories and you will see that the school was never told about the bullying so they could do something. Maybe daddy needs to open his mouth to an adult instead of just threatening kids.

he didn't touch the little jackasses. so stop saying that someone's going to "shoot a kindergardener". Civilized society that babies 12-15 year olds for doing dumb acts? HA! Any human over 5 knows what they should and shouldn't do. So don't stand up for a bunch of stupid kids. They were older, not little kids. they were in junior high. they know all of those words and probably taunted the little girl with those. just break your computer dennis. and here's the article from central florida news 13 http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/september/152067/Was-father-protecting-his-daughter-on-bus that's showing the cerebral palsy. jackass.

the bus driver looked 3 hundred yeas old wtf was he gonna do hit him with his cane or throw a Box of Depends at the guy id kill any sob that messes with kids damn the consiquences

new mom- go back to your holy church, I'm not interested in you or anyone else name calling and trying to start crap since you can't have a civil conversation and try to understand anyone elses views. I see other views but I try to counter with logic not name calling. I bet you think you have the right to discipline my kid. Raise a hand to my kid and I will make sure you never raise that hand again. The only idiots seem to be the intolerant hypocrites on here. Solve alledged bullying with terroistic threats to a preteen child or 3. What would have happened if one of the kids had said anything, would he have hit the kid? I would tell my child to dare the adult to strike them. That person would be getting visits from little Suzie for about 5 to 10 yrs.

You people make it so easy to blow you off since you say the same hypocritical viewpoints.

The father is not a coward. He did what most of us parents only think and talk about doing when our children are put in danger. Yes the child was put in danger emotionally by the bullies on the bus. Parents need to teach their children to be tolerant of other people. That is one of the main reasons the world is in the shape it is, because it's all about me me me and no one is taught tolerance. I do believe the father did not need to use profanity toward the bullies or anyone else, but hopefully he got his point across and those children will no longer bully another child. God help those children if they are not reined in and held accountable. I hope the parents of these bullies are working with their children to help them change, or we could possibly have another suicide on our hands for ignoring what is going on and I sincerely hope and pray it doesn't come to that.

Yes I stand behind the father for protecting his daughter... I saw some are posting that she has cerebral palsy. I don't know the situation with that but healthy or handicapped ALL children deserve protection! Whether the father filed a complaint or not he not only has the right to protect his daughter but also a DUTY.The so called "mother" of the boy who was doing the harrassing needs to take a good long look at her family and figure out where she went wrong. She has a right to be angry..... not so much at the man who protected his daughter but at herself and her own son for the boys actions that caused this mess to start with.

My older sister and younger brother were both bullied on the bus. My sister was actually sexually assaulted on one occasion. When she screamed at the boy for grabbing her she got kicked off the bus. I was kicked off as well for grabbing the boy in retaliation for what he did to my sister. Yes the bus driver gave him repeated warnings but never a "pink slip". My mother made me take my punishment and heaped some major chores on me to "pay for the gas" she had to use to take me back and forth to school lol. Although she told me she was proud of me for sticking up for my sister. My brother was 5 at the time of his bullying. T was the smallest child on the bus bet he didn't 30lbs dripping wet but a 250lb boy named George popped T in the mouth with his massive class ring because my brother threatened to tell on him for stealing his hat and not giving it back. Needless to say I was yet again kicked off the bus because I defended my 5 yr old brother. Again my mother made my punishment stick plus chores but again she was proud of me. I have 6 children now (and before anyone talks about my breeding habits I am not on welfare nor have I ever been. My husband and I both have very good jobs, thanks for the concern.) All of my children are taught to be respectful of ALL people. I do not allow rudeness or hate in our house. And yes if someone tells me that one of my children are making fun of someone or being mean to anybody the child in question pays for it.

Sorry this was way longer than I had intended.

Because I'm right? I forgot that I had accual proof in mine and you keep thinking that everyone's just going to run around and hit kids. NO ONE HIT ANYONE. He was right. Give it a break. You're just a liberal who doesnt make any sense.

new mom- I guess that middleschool age is 18-20 now? What age is it in your town? K-5, 1-6, 2-7, 3-8, 4-9, 5-10, 6-11, 7-12, 8-13....hmmm.

Do you talk to everyone like this? I honestly hope you don't. Since there is a camera on the bus I would like evidence before some adult charges my kids bus. I'm sure your children never do anything wrong as well. Oh, I forgot that your family is the ultimate perfect acting family. Maybe you can be appointed by Obama to head the family and children services to show everyone how much your family is special and everyone is to be mandated to allow any adult to jump on a school bus of children.

Maybe this country has lost its balls...maybe parents like you need to pray a bit more so maybe you can get the glow around your head since you are so perfect you can degrade someone for voicing their opinion.

It is perfectly ok for an adult to storm a bus full of children, ....on occasion.

And if everyone in Dennis's thread here had kids on that bus, and we were all at the scene after the arrest, we would all be outraged at the Dad.

Half of us would learn about the reason behind the outburst and become less angry towards the dad yet still concerned in general. Almost half of us would maintain that anger towards the dad and interrogate our kid a little about what happened.

Some of us will get straight talk from the kids and realize the father's anger was appropriate. Some of us will get truthful answers from kids who really didn't know about any bullying. Others will get downright lies. I want to wager that every child on the bus knew about it. Humiliating someone is redundant if you keep it on the downlow.

The point is that most of us manage anger in stages and let it simmer when appropriate and amplify it when needed. Redirecting it helps too if it is legitimate.

Throughout the entire ordeal from the fathers' arrest to the court hearing weeks from now, one parent stayed mad. One parent only placed one shoe onto one foot. One parent downright refused even the attempt processing information and emotion simultaneously while also balancing in some logic. That one parent saw red too just like the angry father.

That one parent is Dennis. Also, if I may point out, a reactionary conclusionist.

Angieinmo-And yes if someone tells me that one of my children are making fun of someone or being mean to anybody the child in question pays for it.

I ust have missed when this parent reported this to anyone or even spoke to the parent. Would you allow him to do that to your child? Would you have allowed him to do that to your 5 yr old bother? Where is the line? There are a number of avenues to go to report bullying. the driver, the school, the school board, the PTA, the police. Maybe a parent should be allowed to just take one childs word and never anyone but their own children. How about we only allow the victim to speak and never the accused. How much psycological damage would be caused ny allowing any parent to just run up on any kid they want and just start screaming threats of harm? What happens the time that you get the one parent who thinks they can actually follow through with their threats? Will you be applauding them as well? Maybe we need to bring back lashings for school children.

Dennis. Just exactly how did you manage to insert President Obama into this discussion? Did you forget to take your meds today?

Dennis you are a complete imbecile, and you're clearly oblivious to what actually happens on school buses, and in schools regarding bullying.

"If ANY adult confronts my child like that man, they will see the end of a bat to every joint of their body. I might even be nice and let my child get a few licks in just to remind the adult never to mess with my kid again."

I pray that your child bullies mine. I'll confront you child, and you dare not touch me with even a finger. God, you would have sealed your death. I would beat the @!$%# out of you to a bloody pulp, and you better hope that there are people there to save you, or else your son will witness the death of his father. Nothing wrong in trying to protect your bully child from the angered who is confronting him, but if you, as the parent, rather than listen attempt to get violent with me, one of us will go home bloody or in a body bag that day. They only reason why I'm not kicking your child's ass in the first place is cause I could crack a bone with 1 finger alone, but you as the parent can take it, and I will not hesitate to smash your head in in the slightest.

You only say what you say because you are behind the anonyminity of the internet. I can bet you'd be scared @!$%#less to even aproached the raged parent, talk less of even pick up a bat.

I don't have children, but I would confront any child that bullies mine. This is not even a question. Schools do nothing about it, so i'm forced to take matters into my own hands.

Dennis, In my last post to you my last sentence was below-the-belt, and I apologize for that. I am curious about something you posted in your reply to me. You said that "girls love being vengeful" and that you were sorry that this girl "claims" she was bullied. Am I correct to assume that you think this girl was lying about being bullied? I know you think that what her father did was wrong, and I can see your argument, but he did not physically put his hands on anyone, nor do I believe that he would have followed through with his threats of bodily harm. He was, quite simply, a hothead who got angry and yelled at a few horrid bullies who were ganging up on his daughter. I get that you feel that adults should "pick on someone their own size," but he was dealing with bullies, and bullies only respond to strength. When people stand their ground against bullies these bullies will, in most cases, back down and stop their bullying. The dad has since stated his remorse over what he did. He was obviously frustrated at the time, and who could blame him? I hope the parents of these bullies crack down on them, but they probably won't.

Well, Dennis, for your information, I happen to be gay and I got bullied because of it. One time I had had enough and I went after the bullies. I pounded the living sh*t out of one of them and picked up his bike and threw it into a creek; I turned to his friend and asked if he wanted more of the same. Both went tearing away in fear (and the guy whose bike ended up in the creek never went down to get it back; its rusted remains are probably still there). As for your kids, if they ever acted like those bullies I'd give them a good verbal what-for and if you don't like it, then come and take me on. I'll throw your car into a river.

When I was in junior high school (now called middle school), teachers not only yelled at kids, but they hit them when they acted up. Bet you love the thought of that. It took care of bullying. In one of my classes, a bully kept picking on a student and the teacher had enough and she went and slapped that bully so hard across the face it left her hand-print on it. He never bullied again. That's what adults should continue to do now, including to one of your kids, Dennis, if they act up. If you don't like it, then come on over and I'll put you and your brats into place.

im pretty sure he told william to leave politics out of this, now he wants someone to get obama to head childrens services.... now hes bringing politics into this? make up your mind!!

Dennis, i honestly have to say "YOU are a F*****G IDIOT" It's people like you who defend bullies that probably think your "precious babies" would never do that!! THE SYSTEM , REALLY!!! What a joke!

Dennis....Did you forget to take your medication again???? Might I suggest that you give yourself a thorough TEABAGGING....oops, I forgot...you have no testicles with which to do such a thing. Then perhaps you would do the world a favor and lick a dogs rectum until it bleeds - preferably a large unbathed Great Dane.

I am beyond thrilled to see so many comments in favor of this father. I can't imagine what it would be like in that situation, being told that I was in the Wrong to do what needed to be done in an effort to protect my child.

The hypocrisy here from the school officials and the bus driver is absolutely astounding.

Help me understand: It's NOT bad when predators bully others... but it IS bad when a father wants to do everything within his power to protect his children.

I'd be proud to contribute to a legal defense fund - Dad is a HERO.

(one other thought concerning the parents of the bullies - Clearly, they are to blame... but they probably live in just as much fear of a system that does not work, since the bullies could easily 'turn them in' for doing their job as a parent... just something to think about)

Dennis, while you make good points such as violence never solved anything, etc., you've still missed the point. The girl was being bullied. She was the victim. The nature of bullying is that someone exerts power over another thru intimidation, threats, physical violence, and humiliation. It's typically done with an audience which further heightens the affect. Children who are bullied don't often tell their parents because they're ashamed or worried that if the offenders are confronted that it will be worse...again, exactly what the bully has been telling them. You shouldn't be blaming the girl for being afraid to tell her family...it's the reason bullying is so successful. Kids like her don't think like you. Kids in general don't think like adults.

You've said that nowhere in the story does it mention that the girl had cerebral palsy. Good point, I haven't read that either. But you talk about one of the bullies as being a little 6th grader. Really? Do you have pictures? My son was 5'7" in the 6th grade. One of my daughters was 4'11". No way can you know that he was a "little child".

In any event, it doesn't matter the size of the child doing the bullying...it's the fact that bullies have learned how to recognize a potential victim....size has nothing to do with it. Neither, as a matter of fact, does age. Girls and boys can both be bullies and the lifetime of scars to the children that they terrorize last a lifetime.

The father was out of line with his over the top yelling and screaming. But I'll give him a pass on this one because he was protecting his daughter. What he did was instinctive and from the gut. It wasn't pre-meditated and he didn't physically assault the bullies. He ranted and raved and threatened loudly to make his point. He didn't bully. He stood up for his child, his daughter...someone who couldn't stick up for herself. It sounds like you've probably raised some pretty nice children, I have too. But there are kids out there who don't have parents that instill values in them and punish them when they don't behave. There are kids that are raised in violence and feeling powerful over someone else is one way they have of feeling like they're in control of something.

I was disgusted to read that the bus driver had done nothing to bring order to his bus. The bus driver was a putz to have let this go on. No one can tell me he doesn't know something about each of the kids that rides that bus and I'll lay money down that he's seen what went on happen more than once. He's responsible for the safety of each child he transports and he just didn't care enough to do anything to make it stop. If the girl was too afraid to tell her parents, what was the bus driver's excuse for not telling them?

The mother of the bully who was so upset she was in tears needs a reality check as well. By the time her kid was in the 6th grade, she should have some idea of his personality and again, I bet that wasn't the first time in her life that she heard that her son was bullying someone. I'm not going to take a stab at guessing which of a dozen different scenarios went on in her household to produce a bully. I never had a problem child so I can't give her advice but she needs to get that boy some help...fast.

So, Dennis, be mad at HOW the girl's dad handled the situation. But the "hands-off" approach (my words, not yours) gets most parents no where. The buraucracy that is our public schools is so filled with folks too afraid to do the right thing because they're afraid of being sued. The parent complains to the teacher who complains to the principal who complains to the board and still nothing gets done. Meetings are called. Both sides threaten to sue and rarely, does the victim see justice.

So, this dad took the matter into his own hands and yelled and stormed at a few kids who were bullying, BULLYING his DAUGHTER...I say bravo but next time, dad, just watch your mouth! There's impressionable minds there that probably learned a lot on the bus that day about right and wrong and no one heard any language they'd never heard before.

BTW, I had a dad like that growing up and no body ever picked on his kids! All of 5'7" but a mouth like a truck driver and a voice as big as a marching band, he always seemed larger than life. But our dad loved us like nobody's business and we loved and respected him too much to let him down. Everyone in our neighborhood and school always commented to our folks about how well-behaved my brothers and I were. We didn't have to test our dad, we didn't even want to test him, we were pretty sure we knew what would happen if we didn't behave...and so did the other kids. I wish a dad like that on everyone. RIP, Daddy.

Dennis,You would be on the side of a terrorist, too.Bullying is sort of terrorism.It gets so out of hand that people die because of it.We're talking teenagers and younger here..Do you believe that it's OK for bullies to exist?When my wife was in grade school,she was small in stature.Being small,she was picked on constantly by the neighbor kid on the bus.Her older brother got on the bus one morning before school, behind his sister.He walked to the neighbor's seat,pulled him out,and proceeded to beat the living daylights out of him.What happened next?The neighbor left her alone.End of story.No cops,school oficials,or parents stepped in.If you got in trouble back then at school,your mom and dad would whip your ass when you got home.We used to bring guns to school during hunting season.They stayed in our trucks,because,if a bad report came home about abusing gun safety,or any thing that resembled something that was out of line,we would pay dearly.That went for anyone that screwed up.Nowadays,the parents have your attitude,don't bother my little Johnny,he's innocent.I say,if your little Johnny bullies my little Anny,I am gonna tell his daddy only ONCE to knock it off,or there will be a very unpleasant visit near the dinner hour at your home.Get my drift?

Someone mentioned that corporal punishment needs to be brought back into schools. Well, I've heard horror stories about that; and I know in my schools, my 6th grade teacher threw staplers and books at us. One of the high school teachers threw a kid against the wall so hard he actually went through the wall into the other classroom! NO ONE wanted to go to the Headmaster's office to be paddled-even the toughest football players cried. I don't think I want to go back to that!

I agree that this dad essentially made himself a bully to stop the bullying. He did not just swear at the kids, he threatened serious bodily harm to them. My family has also dealt with bullying and completely ineffective school administrators. The mom tried talking to the parents, but they would not take her seriously; all she could do was bolster the kid as much as possible until she was able to go to another school. The kid wound up very happy at the new school and said that she wouldn't have traded her experience b/c it made her more empathetic towards others and better able to help them.

Cut through all of Dennis' bull@!$%# and we can get right to the point, protecting innocent kids from bullies. I was bullied excessively from the first years of elementary school up until sophomore year of high school. Bullies are foul hellions that deserve everything they get. Bullies are basically NEVER stopped by the school's teachers, administrators, and bus drivers, mostly because they fear the loss of their job from the suing of ignorant parents. The system has failed its charges, including myself, and the problem will NEVER be removed by the actions of some third party who doesn't have any real investment in the protection of the innocent children. Thus, the only people who can be counted on to be proactive are the parents, who CARE about their childrens' torment. If the system fails, why should we support it? This man did NOTHING wrong.

Dennis. Get off the crack pipe. The father did the right thing. These thugs won't fork with his kid again. And if they do, I hope he beats them within an inch of their lives.

Dennis, you get an "E" for effort. I've read a lot of the responses to your comments. You are dealing with a mob mentality here. They're in a frenzy over one child bullying another, but have no problem with an adult stranger bullying a child. Most of them are blow-hards hiding behind their computers playing the role of tough guy. All parents want their children protected from bullies. There are civilized ways to do just that. I'm with you. A man threatens my child, regardless of what he THINKS my child may have done, he will be picking himself off the floor in the blink of an eye. For all of those angry lemmings defending this man, you are the cowards.

It's on video tape. You rail against violence and then advocate it in the same post. make up your mind. Dennis advocates taking a ball bat to all of your joints etc, etc. You guys should meet for coffee. No one else has anything to say to either of you. By the way she is disabled and he did complain to the school. A month passed and the bullies just like you two, did not quit harassing his child. He did the right thing his language was over the top but he was emotional and the "threats" were just words tumbling out of his mouth. He did the right thing for his daughter. The little jerks are just that jerks and deserved all they got and more.

As the mother of a disabled child that has to take this kind of torture on a regular basis, just try me, we'll see who the coward is, I will die for her.

I think it is sad that your kid had to punch another kid to get them to leave him alone. I am a parent of 2 "small" kids (9 & 5) and are constantly telling them that they don't put their hands on another person - no matter what. We are telling them don't call names it isn't nice and hurts feelings. Include everyone in things, it hurts the others to be left out. How would you feel, etc. We are hammering it home the best we can (and have been since 2 years old) and then you send your kids to public school and all of that goes out the window. The administrators and teachers they all throw their hands in the air and say what can we do. The parents have to start at home. I am tired of the bully's behavior being tolerated. Maybe if these kids were suspended and the parents got the clue that it is serious, then maybe they will learn. But then again, the kids probably don't want to go to school or are doing poorly so they won't care.

Our elem. school has a ZERO tolerance policy that they teach/preach about and it still goes on. Tired of it!

Really the worst part is the dads action probably did little to stop the bullying. (except now that its national news, the parents of the bullies may get a clue- although in this crazy country they will only see the wrong that the dad did, not the wrong that triggered that response)

Had this not become national news, the kids know the dad cant be there all the time, and they know he cant actually hurt them (really what parent would actually do that? not likely) So they may tone it down a bit , but they will still be bullies until something happens to THEM that makes them understand

Zacron, an interesting thought, but I bet that it did do something. I bet the bullies leave this girl alone completely. Bullies are really cowards who stop the minute they have any risk or meet any resistance. Unfortunately, the girl probably has to change schools, etc. because of the backlash against her parents getting involved. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this guy is a hero for his intention, but the language and threat towards the bus driver probably didn't work well. School officials, bus drivers, even police (people who need power like bullies are drawn to being policemen) do not seem to do anything about this stuff.

Often the "kids" have no respect for the bus driver either. Apparently, they take their cues from their parents. In the Urban/suburban pecking order - anyone making less money than the parent doesn't deserve respect, doesn't have to be listened to and can not dicipline their "lil' precious.

A recent case had a bus driver so frustrated that the go up and attacked a bully. Seems the bully started tossing things at the bus driver when he was "corrected" for his bad behavior on the bus. (which, incidentally, placed all the children riding the bus in danger - with the bus driver having to watch his back while driving.

Of course ... the bus driver lost his job. The school paid cash to console the parents and apologized for the bad behavior of the fired bus driver.

Its good to be the King.... and kids, even rotten little bullies - are Kings, Queens and lil' princes and princesses.

Parents don't socialize their kids and take offence when others step in to do their job for them. ... Don't want to stunt the creativity, self-esteem of the lil' boogers.

Right On! I am a school teacher in FL. I can truthfully say that school administrators just give lip service to anti-bullying rhetoric. Their hands are tied! It is about time a parent stood up to be counted. I think all of America will be following this story & its outcome. Hopefully the father will be exonerated because the admin would not or could not do the RIGHT thing

VA Mother of 2 - Sorry to say but your kids are toast. Unfortunately, the "turn the other cheek" mantra only means they get hit twice.

You should send them to a self defense class like Tae Kwon Doh or Hapkido. They teach not to strike first but to react effectively. The younger the better for these classes. They also teach discipline. Besides, all it takes is for them to defend themselves effectively once. When they do that, they get left alone.

Jay, I totally agree. My kids are in there 20's now and one of the things I TRULY REGRET is teaching them from an early age not to fight.

I should have taught them 'Don't start the fight, but make sure you D*MNED WELL FINISH IT!!'.

Imagine how sick at heart and physically sick I felt when my son finally answered my 'why don't you hit them back?' question with 'you told us not to fight'. Good God, makes me feel sick right now even thinking about it knowing all the knocks he took because of my bad advice!! As God is my witness, you are doing your children a HUGE DISSERVICE if you tell them don't fight.

He still took some raps but when he got tired of it he'd 'go beserk' and try his best to beat the perpetrator to a pulp.

In Jr. High the school guard even told me he tried to look out for the little kids (my son was real skinny). Some brute the size of a high school basketball center (flunked a few grades) took pleasure in punching the hell outta these little kids (my son included).

Imagine my pleasure when the guard told me how he came around the corner one day and saw my son take a stand and tell the bully 'don't you hit me anymore!' The brute took a swing and the guard said my son did some type of fancy move, got behind the brute, jumped on his back and put a serious and bonafide choke hold on him. All the while my son was screaming as he squeezed tighter and tighter 'ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE ME ALONE??!!' The guard said he didn't tell my son to let go (wound up having to pry him off the SOB's back) until the dude was gasping, eyes bulging and looking like he might pass out.

Needless to say, that was the end of the bullying.

PEOPLE - TEACH YOUR KIDS TO FIGHT BACK and not to worry about being suspended etc!!!! The school can't/won't protect them - they have to protect themselves!!!!

I like many other parents see bullying as an issue that the school does nothing about. I had a child that I too taught not to fight back and wish I had not of taught him that. He was backed in a corner one day at school and several other students were beating on him and even broke several fingers he had had enough and the only way he found to fight back was to bite one of them for that he got suspended but the kids who did the bullying did not. Shortly after that one of those same kids cut my son with a knife across his chest and that too went with out consequences all I was told by the school was they were afraid for my sons safety and couldn't protect him anymore. Yet even though I spoke to these kids parents they just laughed and said good for the child and saw nothing wrong. So if the school won't protect our children and the school bus drivers say their hands are tied who protects the children who are being bullied. The article not once mentions the bus driver intervening on behalf of the children. Parents need to stand up and be heard it is our right to expect our children to be safe while in the hands of others.

This kind of behavior is all over the world - not just restricted to the USA. News of beginner Serial killers ... in training.

updated 9/17/2010 1:31:07 AM ET

MELBOURNE, Australia — Three eighth-grade Australian students have been suspended from school and will be questioned by police after allegedly beating a kangaroo to death with a metal rod last week.

The students were immediately suspended after a teacher reported seeing the teenagers bashing the kangaroo while they were at a school camp, Torquay College principal Pam Kinsman said Friday.

"We are taking the matter extremely seriously. We are cooperating with police," Kinsman said.

She said the boys could be expelled or be assigned community work.

"If it's found they did the wrong thing, the community is going to be deeply upset," she said. "This is a school with high standards of respect for each other and the environment."

A police investigation was ongoing.

The Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act stipulates maximum penalties of a 28,000 Australian dollar ($26,370) fine or two years' imprisonment, said Greg Boland of the animal welfare organization RSPCA.

"This is a concern to the RSPCA and must be a concern to society as well, and that's why there's got to be some intervention in relation to these juveniles so that this behavior is not repeated in any way," Boland said.

The students were part of a group on a three-day camping trip to a national park earlier this month.

the parents of bullies will sue everyone around if their 'baby' has to follow decent behavior. If any parent let's his child be a bully, that parent is as much a low life as the child.

... Why does the school bus driver permit bullying on the bus. Everyone is into the position that these events are not their problem. School administrators, teachers and even bus drivers are in positions of responsibility. I taught in a middle school for 2 years. I was more than qualified to teach in my area specialty. I was not qualified to put up with what teachers are expected to endure. Despite my being a doctoral candidate with over 100 credit hours over my master degree, I was told I would be eligible to be hired for about $21,000 gross -- for about 10 hours a day, 5 days a week. I chose to work as an adjunct professor of Spanish at a community college for about 12 hours of classroom time each week, and possibly 4 hours a week in the summer.

September 3, 2010:

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - An Estacado High School student was arrested and accused of assaulting his 69-year-old bus driver.

The incident happened Thursday after school, but the bus driver told us that this student has been a constant distraction for everyone on his route. "This young man, ever since the first day of school, he's been given me problems on the bus, not only to me but other kids on the bus," said bus driver Floyd Freeman.

Freeman's been driving kids to school for nearly 4 years. He only expects respect from his riders. "He don't expect nothin except don't cuss, use profanity, or fight," witness YaRaven Germon told us.

19-year-old Zavier Allen apparently didn't feel like obeying them. "I told him you can't ride my bus no more because you don't know how to act. He said 'I'm riding this bus and there's nothing you can do to stop me.' "

Freeman tried to stop Allen, but witnesses say it didn't work. "I seen him hit him in the face 2 times and knocked his stuff off," Germon said.

Freeman said he got hit in the face and had bruises on his arm. Allen took off running, but he couldn't hide from the Lubbock School District police. "Officers went to the suspect's home this afternoon and arrested the suspect without incident," said LISD Police Chief Mark Hinshaw

The reasons are clear... these kids often have little or no respect for anyone in the school.

Unless you have a Badge and a gun - some of these children will attack anyone attempting to prevent them from acting out.

I have not read all 299 comments. The bus driver is obviously not proactive as he did not say anything to the parent or take other measures to defuse the incident. He obviously didn't view the tapes, as well as the transportation director, administration, etc. The school could have pressed charges against the bully and issued a long term suspension, as well as call in family services to investigate the bully's access and abusive use of condoms. Make no mistake, girls are sexually accosted on school buses on a regular basis. It doesn't matter if it's a large city or small town, it will happen. As a parent insist that the girls and boys be separated, or at least make sure that your daughter sits in the front of the bus and not let anyone else talk her into trading seats.

Cyndi Kain had a school district with a good policy regarding students. She obviously had administrators who would back the policy. Weak administrators who won't enforce policies or support the teacher discipline, as well as including staff with the authority to report discipline issues, will ruin a school and the education of students.

And who is to blame for the incident? The parent(s) of the harassing students. These parents have a victim mentality and think that the way to compensate for their poor parenting/lifestyle is to support their child whether they be right or wrong.

The reason why schools had to re-implement character education is because so many parents aren't teaching it to their children, or they are of such poor character themselves that they don't know or want to parent. (They basically clothe and feed their kids (if that) and then let them run like stray dogs.)

Every student deserves to have a safe environment in which to learn. If that isn't happening, then look to the administration and school board, because they are not doing enough.

I have 21 years teaching experience, in all grade levels. I had 600 kids a year in a 6-8 grade middle school. Now I teach middle school and high school. A weak administrator will let the students take over the school, and it will be a battle to maintain control to have real learning take place. Also, if a school board member is more concerned that their little Johnny gets preferential treatment, or is more concerned that the administrator "looks good" politically in the district, then the administrator's focus is forced to be in other areas or he could lose his job. It takes a long time (years) to undo the damage of weak administrators and school boards with personal agendas.

So while what the father did was not legal, I hope it at least sent a message to the school authorities to run a tight ship, and to bullies everywhere that it's a good possibility that the next dad might be smart enough to not take care of the problem on the school bus, but at a different location.

You are right he should have contacted the parents too but we don't know if he tried to do that. They don't have contact lists handed out in public school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to gain access to a student's phone number. The only place I have ever been asked if I wanted to be on a student phone list/roster was private school.

A different article on another site did say he told the school and they didn't do anything.

Personally, I'd go 'bully' the little punk's Dad a bit before I bothered to get on the bus and make threats about it. Maybe a little fear and intimidation would help the bully's parents see what their child is inflicting on others.

In my state, I'd end up with $100 bond and maybe some anger management courses. This dad is probably looking at a hefty fine for doing what he thought was necissary, I'd have went to the source myself.

When I was a child, my sister was the victim of bullying in our small town. The main bully happended to be the niece of the principal. My dad went to the school one morning and put the fear of God in the principal, and that ended the issue right there.

Maybe this dad didn't take the right approach to solving the problem, but he's still a hero in my book for doing whatever he felt necissary to protect his child.

Last year my middle school child had gum put in her hair by some snotty girls on the bus. I went in to address it at school, the principle assured me they "took" care of it. They would not tell me how they took care of it saying it would "violate" the girls rights who offended my child. The girls were back on the bus within 2 & 1/2 days (maybe sooner b/c I drove/picked up for 2 days). And they had caught it on camera.

They still get my school taxes, but I quit helping with school fundraisers with all 3 kids. If they want to put the $$ towards extra disciplinary action or monitoring then maybe I'd rethink it.

That was an expensive piece of bubble gum for the school.

you are part of the problem as to why this country has gotten so out of hand... if parents were allowed to spank thier children this kind of problem would happen far less my friend. time out doesnt teach a kid @!$%# except they can get away with anything. proper channels? we all know how well that works. parents need to take responsibility for these kids and instill a little fear of consequence into them. if that was my kid who was the bully, ill guarantee you he would think twice about putting his hands on someone else again.

jpiatt, you obviously do not have kids in this situation...otherwise you would realize how foolish your statement is. My oldest two sons were in middle school and on the bus, the eldest was tormented daily by a policeman's son. A known bully. All the talking in the world to his parents (daddy was proud of his son's bullying!) and the school-teachers, principal and vice principal (they were afraid of the kid) did nothing. My son ended up with a detached retina and nothing was done except we had to pay a nice medical bill. During classes, my son had to deal with another kid whose dear old step dad ran a bar and the kid was a real horror story. The administration pretty much laughed about the crap he pulled....he routinely picked a victim and tormented them until they would leave the school. This little brat ran everything because they were afraid of him and his stepdaddy, a loud obnoxious drunk. My son did everything to avoid a fight with him but when it reached the point that the brat took a swing, my son stepped back then forward and pinned the kid's arms so he couldn't swing. My son was suspended for "attacking" this brat while that jerk was sent back to class to prey on another kid. So what could did it do telling the school administration? They did nothing at all. The principal would hide in his office because he was so scared of the students. For this he was paid $169,000 a year at that time, more than 15 years ago. My second son had his hand fractured in numerous places by the school board president's son, an attorney, because my son beat him at chess in the chess club! The teacher who was moderating that club was no where to be found! We ended up paying that bill too and my son was in a cast for 6 weeks and most of his teachers told him he still had to write his tests and do his papers anyway!! Even though his hand was in a cast and he couldn't hold a pencil.....

After all this, my son's were pulled to homeschool where they at least survived. And both were National Merit Finalists. Schools today are nothing more than places of misery and hell for most students. The students are in control and it is the bullies and bitches who run them. I am tired of hearing the crappy excuses of teachers who say they are not paid enough.....never saw an old beaten car in their parking lot! They all drove a lot better car than I could afford. They all brought down a minimum of $80,000 which isn't bad for 8 months of work. The administrators are grossly overpaid for what little the do. Most hide in their offices and are out of reach of parents. Even the bus drivers make a darn good amount of money considering the small amount of time they actually do work. It isn't a full time job. However, every single one of them should either give the job their full attention and do their best or get out. I for one and sick and tired of their excuses.

Your kid is probably a bully. Only the parents of a bully would come up with some crap about how another parent's "threats" only send bad messages to his own children. The truth is kids need to to have the S**T kicked out of them....and I'm sure YOUR kid is no exception. It's always the parents of the A**H*** who think some other parent is "sending the wrong message" or some other kid "wasn't raised right".

What exactly can a bus driver do? How stupid, if you think that the bus driver can do anything he or she is hamstung by the courts, by the liberal press, by stupid and assinine administrators, moronic parents and last but not least of them all are the freaks we have in congress, these are the ones to blame for making a school system so filled with crimial minds and fools. If the bus driver did anything to stop bad behavior by touching or interventing in someway by defending someone who is being assaulted he or she could be jailed, fired and put to public shame like this father is, the same with the worthless school employees thanks to those damn judges who think the criminal has more rights than those who do no criminal behavior they are the same crud that increase our taxes by their vile decisions they now INTERPRET the constitution and laws instead of judging by them. and you buy into their foolishness. Soon there will be no freedom in AMERICA........... thank you JIMMMMMMMMY shamful liberal and his ilk.

freeman-2375166- Are you a flaming troll? Go back to your gaming site!

Im going to put my 2 cents in here too. I hada 1st and 2nd grader who took the school bus..way back when. A little boy kept teasing and pulling on my childs hair making faces..etc..after a few bus rides my child came to me and she hated it saying hed just laugh..the little boy would always jump /switch seats..when my child got off hed make his famous ugly mug..I got tired of it told my child to ignore him and she did but when she did he got mad at would throw litle things at her..bus driver would tell him to knock it off .hed just ignore him..so i then went to the teacher..as i told my child to do..seems that he was told to stop..but it continued til a back to school night and then my child had the chance to ask him to stop..becasue when he showed up at eh parents night my daughter saw him and he made his face again at her and giggled;so she went right up and asked him why do you make thoses at me in class and on the bus? Boy did his parents scold him on the spot. His reason"she s ugly..and his parents made him appologise and he was smacked upside the head and they left..my daughter edidnt like that but she only wanted to tell him it wasnt nice..she thanked his family for the appology..and btw.my child is a special needs but mildly..we treat all kids the same and try to help when it is needed. they r not retarded..just different..

The bus driver should have stopped the bus and done something about it!

i'm with you 100% .... i also believe this kids show had been the one out of the bus, how can we trust our kids to go on a shcool bus , when things like this happen, i as a mum would have done the same thing. but like other say the bad ones get away with what they did to this poor child, that i bet was not the first time, and the father who no matter what he done in his pass only stood up for his kid like any of us would have. we need to put a stop to this before some other kid takes there life away cause of these bullies. make hard rules and male the damn driver make sure they are kept, or fire them.... we pay for this when we pay our taxes, im damn mad and upset that things like this happen still. come on we should put the bullies mum in jail, for not doing something about her son,

Put mom in jail? Keep in mind that most of these thugs have parents scared to death of child services, or of being a "bad parent" if they were to punish them. Parents, bus drivers and teachers alike are stuck in the same boat. We are no longer ALLOWED to discipline the children.

My best friends son yelled at her, that if she spanked him, she was going to go to jail!!!! He was 6 years old !!!!! Luckily she had a brain in her head, and responded...."WELL, if I'm going to go to jail.........I'd better make it worth it!"

She proceeded to tan his hide!!! :) Unfortunately not so many are brave enough to do that!

We as AMERICANS are stuck in a downward spiral. I think that you and most of us agree that, "tsk tsk... no no no....TIME-OUT" Isn't good enough. We can't be the only ones who have noticed that the criminals keep getting younger???

The fact that she was mad enough to cry. Your right.... She's probably an idiot. But just keep in mind, this is going on all over the country. Alot of parents just don't know what to do anymore.

Make it the bullies parents problem, throwing them off the bus for 5 days the 1st time and add 2 days each time until 10 then NO BUS!!! Bet the parents will take responsibilty then!

If your kid's over 5, they know what they're doing is wrong, they just continue to do it. They need to bring back corpral punishment.

I agree!

Some kids these days just need a good old fashion spanking!

Remember - "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Thats exactly what this society has done wrong these days. By spoiling the child!

"The answer is to simply talk between parents calmly and collectively, then if that does not provide results, go to the authorities."

You haven't been out much lately, have you? Civility is pretty much dead these days.

I know of one school district where (many years ago) if the student was disruptive/disrespectful in class, the principal would come into the classroom and give the kid a swat in front of the class! :o The teachers who grew up in the district said it did wonders for discipline. The kid couldn't gain his/her composure and pretend it didn't hurt when there was a class full of witnesses!

that is the kind of consequence we exactly need but unfortunately child and family services make it almost impossible to dicipline. too many liberals.....

It's the "My Little Johnny" Syndrome. They don't want to take responsibility, period. Maybe if the parents had to face a serious consequence along with the punk kids, maybe they might start to catch a clue. How about picking up trash in the ditch along a busy road for a few weekends all day forced to wear neon colored shirt that for the parents say, "I'm a crappy parent" and one for the kid saying "I'm a punka$$ bully? Is it a stretch to think that maybe, just maybe some would wake up.

Bad reflection on her. She should discipline her kid. Oooops, I forgot, it's now against the law to discipline a child. No wonder there are now so many out of control punks. And, 13 yr old kids with condoms imagine that. Dr Spock, you started all this crap, IMO.

Well said, Lucy

You're right about how to raise your kids. However, you're wrong that the bullies don't know that their behavior is wrong. They choose to ignore putting the lessons taught in school (classroom & school rules) into action. This kid knew EXACTLY what he was doing! They've been taught by their parent's action/inaction how to NOT take responsibility for their actions. The parent may even blame the teachers and the school district for not "fixing" her kid, even though I'm sure she most likely never makes sure his homework is up to date or shows up for a parent/teacher conference.

Yeah right; The bullies parents would claim that their child is the victim of society...Dad did the right thing by making the little bullies aware that he will not tolerate his daughter being abused...You Go Dad!!!

You have a GREAT DAD TOO! My mom would have done the same thing too. LOL

My Dad would have said something but very calmly, my mom, on the other hand...

my pops would not have threatened an ass whipping he would have given one.

If I was that dad. I would have sued the school for not doing anything about it! Sue the parents of bullies that started it. See how they like it!

That is exactly why school and bus personnel don't do anything they will be sued or lose their jobs. Imagine if the bus driver had stopped the bus and told the offenders to get off the bus.... the outraged mothers that their poor babies had to walk home because of the mean bus driver. Please think before you threaten a law suit, it is quite possibly the reason the bullies are in charge.

i've always felt this should be taken to higher ground....in my kids schools here in florida there was always propaganda posted all over the schools stating,"if you are being bullied....here are the steps you must take to stop it".....personally...i would like to know what idiots are touting this.....why can't it read..."if you are a bully...and are harrassing anyone...faculty...student....etc....this is what will happen to you...and the steps we will take to stop you and the charges that will be filed against you.this needs to go before some government entity....to pass the laws needed to put a halt to this behavior...and to allow the local authorities to do their jobs....bfore someone gets seriously hurt or killed..."again"i have to honestly say...i would have done the same thing....no one likes to feel impotent in the face of any kind of violence.....he was protecting....they were abusing.....it seemed to be the only thing they understand.......

Our children are who we oprotect out of instinct. It's frustrating when we know something or someone is harming them. Any parent would have thoughts of doing the same thing this man did. just not everyone would act on it. he felt he needed to get his point acoss, and this is how he reacted. I've been in a situation where my son was bullied daily when he was in first grade. a 5th grader threatened him every day for weeks. he finally told me. the bus driver or school did nothing to stop this behavior. it got to the point where i told me son to punch him in the face. i would never normally say that, but i was hurting and didn't know how else to protect him by telling him to stick up for himself and thought it would hopefully scare the bully.