Are you the type of shopper who has second thoughts once you get your purchases home? Are you on a first-name basis with the folks at the Returns department?
Are you a 'shopping bulimic'?
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Are you a 'shopping bulimic'?
Are you a 'shopping bulimic'?
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Are you the type of shopper who has second thoughts once you get your purchases home? Are you on a first-name basis with the folks at the Returns department?
My mother-in-law is a shopping hoarder, she has 2 rooms full of nothing but store bagged items from today and years ago. She never thinks to go through the shopping bags until its to late! Example: Baby shower gift for her first grandson, newborn clothes, She called yesterday to tell me she found the gift. My son is 8 now! Its bad really bad. I ask her why she does this. Her response is I don't know if I can afford what I bought, so just in case I keep the merchandise with the receipt in the bags. She states I might have to return stuff for the money!!!
Hoarding is a psychological problem. I hope she gets help! I know I have tendencies too and when it gets ridiculous I clean house and donate. I am lucky than I am able to hit a tipping point, many are not able to on their own.
Jean missed the most important financial point of binge shopping. If you purchase an item on a credit card in one billing cycle and return the item in the following billing cycle, the card holder will either 1) have to pay for the item in full and get a credit in the subsequent cycle or 2) carry a balance on the credit card and pay interest. In neither case is the cost of the purchase free. If an individual wants to buy merchandise on credit with the intent of returning unwanted items, they must pay attention to where they are in the billing cycle of the card used for the purchase.
Jean often misses the point. i think the whole reason this segment ran is so jean could tax-deduct as a business expense Ludwig's treating jean for this behavior. It's pretty clear to me, from everything Jean writes and everything I've seen/read that jean is a compulsive shopper crying out for help. Her work is some kind of weird subconscious way of treating what is actually her own problem. I'm tired of the Today show catering to this. Fire her and get a finance editor who doesn't have a shopping issue, please. Before someone writes about it/ airs it in an expose.
I can think of few things more boring than shopping. My mom spent hours shopping every day when we were kids, and I just wanted out of the store. It felt like it never ended. Now as a grown mother, all I can think of when I go inside a store is how quickly I can get out. I mean, what is the joy in looking at things for hours and then dragging them home?? And now people are just bringing them back again?
Sounds like pushing a boulder up a hill for eternity...
With all the people returning things so often I sometimes worry that when I purchase an item that I think is "new" it could actually have been used already! Do stores put back on the shelves jars of food for example or lotions, etc. that have been returned? Gross! Where has all the stuff been stored since it was bought? Rolling around on someones hot dirty car floor or in a filthy apartment full of beg bugs (clothes returns, linen returns, etc.) Should be more restrictions on return policy if so many people are taking advantage of them.
I worked at wal*mart for a time, and I know SOMETHING of their return policy... as worried as you are about "returned jars of food" don't be. Unfortunately Wal*Mart just throws all returned foods, including canned foods, in the garbage. They do it to protect their consumers, and when asked why they don't give returned food to a food bank? Well, that's simple, if they did that conspirators of "the walmart" would just do that all the time so Wal*Mart would have to donate the food. Items that are returned with the box completely in tact go back on the shelves. I'm pretty sure clothes have to be returned with the tags still on them. Obviously if stuff is rolling around or is filthy they won't put it back (I'm not even sure if they'd TAKE it back). There are some pretty strict return policies out there... Like BestBuy charges you something like 15% as a "restocking fee."
I think it was 60 Minutes, that did a undercover investigation on returning underwear. It was soooo foul! The undercover customers would return underwear with no tags or with STAINS (they made the stains but you get the idea as to what they were supposed to be stains of) to high and low end retailers, from Walmart to Victoria's Secret and the sales women would do the return and in no time return the exact same item to the sales floor. So ALWAYS wash your "New" underwear cause god knows where it has been.
I was once the "victim" of a scam. I went into Dayton's (now Macy's) in Minnesota and purchased a pair of jeans. I tried them on, loved them, then brought them home. Only after putting them on to go out for an evening did I happen to put my hand in the pocket. I discovered these pants had been worn, then returned. I looked at the tag and discovered somebody had pulled the tag off, then taped it back on. I didn't mind at all.
My "reward" for discovering I had been scammed? The buyer had stuffed a $50 in one of her pockets and left it there. The pants only cost me $29.99.
And yes, I did wash them before wearing them. Ewwwwww!
slightly off topic...but, when I hear ladies say that their clothes cost more than comparable mens, and is of less quality. I think...aren't womens clothes returned much more than mens....doesn't that result in lots not being sold because they are returned...so don't they have to charge much higher margins.
How about stopping that practice of returning stuff all the time ? It is wasteful, probably millions of gallons of gas are used each year returning stuff, in addition to the waste the returned products often become.
What's the problem with overbuying? There are certain hoarders, like magazines, boxes, filth and no room to walk in a house.
Re: goods. If someone has the money, then it is ok. They can buy storage containers.
Too many material goods?; give away the things you do not use, or give them as gifts.
It certainly is better than doing drugs, smoking or being an alcoholic.
Besides these addictions, it helping the economy.
"Live within your means". That's all.
In the end scheme of things, one cannot "hug" a vase. Try for a social outlet to compensate for the over buying.
John - returns are not the reason that women's clothes cost more. It's because from the time we are little girls, it's crammed down our throats that we have to dress in the latest fashions. Next time you are at a book store with a large magazine inventory, take a look at how many magazines focus on women's fashions and compare that to how many are for men's fashions. Retailers take advantage by charging more for ladies apparel. Just like everything else in life, retailers create a market for their merchandise and then charge through the nose for it.
I love the feel of flannel shirts in the winter time and have found that I can purchase a good quality men's shirt for half or more less than I would pay for a flimsier shirt in the women's department. The men's version is made from a thicker, better quality fabric and is better made.
Scales67:
I don't think buying what is in fashion today, applies anymore. It is the Apparel Retail Business that is suffering the most in hard times.
People will buy from stores like Consignment Shops, Goodwill, etc. Girls and Women like to wear Eclectic clothes now. Mixing the old and the new.
There are still some fashion shoppers out there, mostly the rich, or who can buy without credit, but the usual attire now is Jeans and a nice top. Shoes are a mania with women.
Men are easy re: their dressing---they don't care.
I agree scales67. Even young girls clothing costs a little more than boys. A plain white T for a girl costs more than boys. Sure it may only be a difference between $0.50 - $2 more, but why? I can understand if there are frilly collars or designs added, but there isn't.
It "bugs" me that plus size women pay the same price for a piece of apparel that a smaller sized person would pay.
How does this "even" out for the consumer. We are being gouged.
Hawaii2 - You don't get the point, which is that clothes made for females, whether they are women, teens or girls, always cost more than for men and boys regardless of whether they are bought from an expensive clothing store or Walmart. Just like Loo-E Loo-I posted, why should a boy's tee shirt cost half or less than the same simple tee shirt for a girl?
As for plus size women paying the same for clothes as a smaller sized woman, you have no idea what you are talking about. Try looking in any Pennys catalog. Yes, go on-line and take a look. The larger sizes are always more expensive than the smaller sizes. The same is true at Blair's.
What "bugs" me is people like you who have to complain about everything without first knowing the facts. Try volunteering or find something better to do with your time than worrying about whether life is fair.
Scales67:
I do get the point. Maybe I should have written a single post and not to you.
My pet peeve is Plus Size Women pay the same for their clothing as regular sized people.
Everything written are my beliefs. Sorry, wrong entry to you.
Volunteering and find something better than complaining life is not being fair?.
Dearie. You are "barking up the wrong tree". Another one with Assumptions about who is using the computer keys and their freedom of speech..
Now get going, and find a job.
My pet peeve is Plus Size Women pay the same for their clothing as regular sized people.
Hawaii2 - Still didn't take my suggestion and check the Pennys catalog to see that plus size women pay more for the same outfit. What's wrong? Afraid that you might find out that you are wrong? At department stores, where misses fashions are in one department and plus sizes in another, how is it even possible to make a comparison when the styles aren't the same? That's like comparing apples and oranges.
If you go into Target and want sweatshirts or sweatpants in an XXL or bigger...you are paying $2.00 more :)
Lynne:
$2.00 is a small price to pay, compared to gouging the customer who is smaller for same garment, using the large amount of material and labor involved.
Scales67:
Apparently, you haven't shopped lately. Of course Clothing Manufacturers make the same styles in both Misses and Plus Sizes! The Manufacturers are very with it; they are catering to the Plus Size Women's body.
BTW: What should I be afraid of. I don't care what other people think of what I write on the comment board..
Many people never get to this point in life. Too bad.
Material costs are pretty low compared to the designing/manufacturing/labor costs, which are the same across sizes. So the extra yard of fabric in an XL shirt is probably negligible. Does a few pennies really matter? I mean, how many shirts do you buy in a year... it probably doesn't even cost a dollar to "subsidize" the plus sizes!
Larger items cost more because they are not the same as the smaller ones. It's a totally different pattern. The size is not just increased by adding and inch or two here and there...it has to be redesigned. Larger sizes also take more material, thread, and materials to make. These costs are passed along to the consumer.
You're overestimating the wholesale cost of material and thread. It's negligible.
And you're forgetting that it only takes one pattern to make thousands of shirts... and that pattern takes the same amount of intellectual energy (and patent costs) whether it is a petite small, XXL, or somewhere in the middle. Perhaps a small shirt is "redesigned" to fit a larger person, or perhaps a large shirt is "redesigned" to fit a petite person. Does it really matter which one is made first?
Also, if stores charge a restocking fee, like BestBuy, you lose whatever that percentage is of that purchase. I can't believe people would actually do this kind of thing... then again... we are an "instant gratification" society, so once that gratification runs out, the perfect solution is to return it because then the person who fell to their "Addiction" won't have to suffer the consequences. These are the kind of people that make it hard for innocent, honest customers to return the few items that they don't need or were given as gifts.
There's no restocking fee if the item is junk, which is the only good reason to return something. I've also had to return things because the store associate recommended the wrong item, rendering it incompatible with something else, and therefore worthless to me. I've always been able to avoid the restocking fee in such cases, even if they were unable to exchange it for the correct item. You just have to be assertive. A "change your mind" return deserves a restocking free! A return you made because the store advised you wrong... does not.
Three of these five "warning signs" are matters of ethics, which transcends genetics and addictions. This article is simply another attempt to explain away and rationalize the ethical dumbing down of our society.
Unless an item has a material defect or hidden misrepresentation.. you bought it, you own it.
People need to get addicted to the feeling of living within their means and saving. IMO financial security is one of the world's finest drugs.
Making excuses for someone who will not control his or her spending by calling it an addiction is one of the most ridiculous comments that I have ever heard. People are so quick to shrug off legitimate addictions but are willing to accept the idea of an addiction to shopping? Asinine! Like another posted commented, it's just an excuse to allow bad behavior. People used to teach their kids to live within their means. Now they teach them that they are entitled to buy anything and everything that they want, use it, then return it.
I agree. I don't *buy* that all the people who shop/return/shop/return stuff are addicts. What about the people who buy things for temporary necessity just to be free-bee jerks? Video cameras for vacations - restocking charge probably cheaper than renting. Dresses for prom or other events. TVs for the Super Bowl (same as cameras). then they lie about fit or function so they can return it. There are those types of people that do that on purpose because they found they can get away with it. Gee, maybe there's a addiction for that.
Scales67:
This certainly is a spending society. What about the days, when saving to buy something or "lay away"! (Long time ago). Now it is paying huge interests on Credit Cards, putting the owner in debt.
The Younger Adult Generation today do not want to wait for their luxury items. Retirement will get them for sure. Who thinks about that?
You're right; the inability to delay gratification is not an addiction.
I read a recent study, conducted over a 30-year period, showing that the ability to delay gratification improved one's success in life more than IQ, health, looks, socioeconomic status, or a number of other variables. The single most important thing you can do in life (and teach your children to do) is resist impulses. It is the biggest predictor of success.
I used to work for an office supply company. They would no longer accept returns on digital cameras or laptops because people would buy them, use them, and return them...often without wiping the memory. (We saw a lot of term papers and graduation photos.)
If it was truly defective, we could exchange it for the same item only. This cut down on the "renters".
Sounds like there's a market for rentals...
Perhaps they should just offer a rental option in the first place, and charge what they must to be solvent and competitive.
I am limited on time so, I usually buy then try. If an item fits, and looks good when I have the chance to try it on, then I'll keep it. If not, back it goes and I'll try to find a replacement.
Recently a girl convinced me to switch from my fav mascara to their new mascara, so I did. She told me if I didn't like it bring it back. I tried it once and I absolutely couldn't stand it. So, I took it back and ecchanged it for the one I orignally had gone in for. There was nothing unethical about it. I still spent my money at their store and there it stayed.
I do agree that if you purposley damage the item(s) in order to return them, that is stealing. Returning new items or exchanging defective ones is not. That is a right given to us the consumers and, the stores are clear on their return/exchange policies. If you can't obide by them then don't shop there.
I dont't think it's fair to blame the consumer for this. Many times while shopping, if I am unsure about the purchase, the salesperson will say, "Buy it, if you don't like it you can always return it later" They know that once you buy the item and they get their commission, chances are that you won't return it, so it's in their favor if you buy it!
Where do you shop? Places I shop don't say anything - they expect you to read their return policies that are on the wall as you pay for your stuff. All stores have some sort of return policy. It's the consumer's job to find out exactly what it is. I think there is a law that it has to be visible somewhere, but if the consumer doesn't read it, it falls on the consumer.
The chance that you won't return it doesn't mean every one else won't. ;-)
Agreed- If stores didn't have return policies I probably would never buy anything absolutely non-essential. I was never taught how to shop so I only began buying cloths (before I just wore really old stuff or things my friends got me) when I got a job at Target and realized that putting away returned items was no more difficult then putting away items carried to the other side of the store.
I began buying things and even though I returned half of them (because I decided the item didn't work with my wardrobe or I could find something better if I waited), I always returned them promptly and in good condition. In the end I spent more and was happier then if they didn't have a return policy. Making costumers feel guilty over it could be counter-productive for stores.
I have to admit my wife has done this. I don't get but it is good to know it is a compulsive behavior.
Bulimic shoppers? Really?
Bulimic ignorance used by leaders in the business & government world is what the story should be about? Maybe, more like bulimic sellers to me when looked at from different angles?
Almost everywhere people look, it's sell, sell, sell & buy, buy, buy. For what? More overabundance of substandard products that don't fill a real need or last because of unrealistic poor design, construction, methods or regulations? Poor packaging methods inhibit in-store inspection. Deceptive in-store displays are not always what the product is when delivered or opened. Talk about obsessive & compulsive? Is because the point of it all is being over looked again?
Product instruction & construction is being overlooked & sometimes taken for granted by all concerned. 20 different languages & not many get the job done correctly? Things being almost force fed by some with little choice of the others but to sink or swim? What's the point?
What else is it really? Many purchases almost begging for returns because of poor insight by either the manufacturer, regulator or seller. Some businesses have a "trash can mentality" where once it's sold, it's gone & out of sight almost ceasing to exist. They want no more responsibility from the product & don't care about the quality that the customer may have to endure. So much for the return of another kind? - Of the customer to the store for another purchase?
Products being made for one thing are being manufactured for another use? Cabinetry made from substandard products used around water & moisture disintegrate & act more like sponges instead of just repellingwater vapors? Substandard products like clothing & plumbing products that can't take a normal cleaning & disinfectant cleaner without deteriorating & voiding an unrealistic warranty? Returns just waiting to happen?
Some of it is because of unrealistic regulations like the "new & improved" fuel can spouts that almost take 6 hands & an engineering degree to use. Instead of the government putting intelligence to good use, they came up with an almost impossible to use solution that may encourage sales but defeats the purpose of real safety concerns. Intelligent, but frustrated people will always find a way around things that are created by the wasteful ignorance of others. Simpler minds will just take the spout off & create more of a hazard than what was there originally?
Another example is that many small family run small restaurants are now so over regulated that they have either closed down with no one willing to take on the existing unrealistic regulations. Like the unrealistic rule of having a specific hand wash sink when others are readily available that could be used for that purpose too. So, what's the point again?
What's bulimic? Most all of this is B.S. is being put into print by someone else that has another sort of obsession and or compulsion that isn't being met with ignorance backing it up.
What is truely being overlooked is that many people are unhappy with an unrealistic over-idealistic society & government. To me, they're looking for good substitutions when few things around them work the way they used to or the way that they should be anymore.
So, some people shop because of what? To satisfy what need? Why? What for? Nothing else to do? Is it because of inclement weather, so they go inside where they can stretch their legs & buy something along the way? Is it because of the almost never ending commercialistic advertising of almost everything at every bend surrounding their lives? Sometimes, having buy this or that shoved down your throat withevery sight & sound has other effects? TV, radio, billboards & now internet have an overabundance of pushy selfserving advertisements from one company or another from advertising companies that care little about anything but raising their revenues while depleting others?
To me, a lot of something is missing & it isn't something that has a price tag that can be simply applied & purchased with money. It's something, that just has a price tag that it can't always be tacked onto in ways that you'd normally expect. Something that money can't always buy. One of them is common sense. Another is that if enough crap is pushed one way, eventually it will rebound & everyone around will get a taste of it? Buying something new for the sake of it being better isn't always the case is it?
- The real price on a product's tag isn't always the only one you pay for the actual product. It's also for what the product will or won't do down the road as well.
So, what's really being done about the supposed problem presented? Is it being recognized for what it really is? Or, is it just being misrepresented, sidestepped & recreated into another overpriced monster because of ignorance? Just more money doesn't just solve things when little real thought that is backing it up is ignorant of all of the facts. It just recreates another problem.
Are the problems of not having enough affordable social activities just being sidestepped again by our supposed intelligent business & government leaders? Government being run only by business minded people in a business like fashion doesn't really represent all people or the consumers needs does it? It just represents business concerns. For example: What happened to all of our non admission parks that we paid for with taxes? If they are still around & haven't been sold out from under our feet, we now have to pay again for more than simple maintenance to gain access & enjoy them? Another example is: What happened to all of our statues & monuments donated or given to our cities across the country? Many monuments in small towns have simply disappeared from their locations, that were generally in parks or areas that were public. Later, they may reappear in museums or other pay per view locations. What happened to what isn't always for what purpose it was originally designed & designated for is it?
It's one heck of a big price tag to pay for bulimic ignorance isn't it? So much for bulimic proportions? So much for a thoughtful stable society? And, so much for fair trade? Too many times, the new price really makes me sick to think about the way simple cheap things used to be that now have a hefty price tag on them. So, I guess that makes me bulimic? And, I'd like to return, to that too.
Am I the only one who thinks the use of the word "bulimia" to describe shopping behavior is a little unethical? What the heck? What about saying that those who buy every item of a type of item executing a "Holocaust" against ear muffs, or how about a "Tsunami" of price change that will undercut competition?
No, you're not the only one that thinks that way. Unethical? Sometimes yes & sometimes no. But, any way it's looked at, it's definitely unreasonable & a costly mistake to purchase from someone who uses cheap gimmicks to sell a product.
The media & advertising sometimes use cheap attention grabbing ploys to gain our attention. They also help contribute to the problems of senseless spending by those who they target. Look at how many lame commercials have little to do with the product they're selling to gain attention?
Sometimes, I think they're more out to make the manufacturers & sellers look good unto themselves than to the consumer.
Many of these seedy outrageous commercial ploys make me think that the sellers don't take their product or the consumer seriously. And, in both cases, it makes the seller look like a fool and or that they think the buyer is. Not good for anyone in my book.
If the store has a return policy and you return an unwanted item within the time the store policy is in effect, there is no good reason to feel bad about making that return. And, someone said it above but it is true that often the sales person will say "take it and return it if you don't like it or it doesn't fit". They are *trained* to say that with the thought that you, likely, will not return the item. They wouldn't do this if it didn't work.
Better that you return the item that is unwanted then to keep it out of guilt. Yes, it would be better to not buy the thing at all if you really do not want it......better to use your time elsewhere......ok, yes. But it only makes it worse to buy & keep out of guilt. I often buy things that I am considering as a kept item only to view it with my wardrobe etc and decide that it is a not a good fit. I'll be damned if I'll keep such an item. If it does not work, it does not work!
Pennys Mom - the problem isn't with returning items. Its with people who buy an item for the purpose of using it and then returning it. For example, someone who buys a new flat panel TV for his Super Bowl party and then returns it the next day. There is also a problem with people who break or destroy an item on purpose just to get their money back. Those type returns cut into the profit margin and we all end up paying more as prices are increased to cover the loss.
Retailers hate returns. They deal with it in the interest of customer service but a company I worked for really cracked down on them. A return without a receipt required a driver's license. You got 3 of these returns per year before you were locked out for 12 months. (People would steal stuff and then return it without receipt.)
It also messed up our inventory counts. If we sold something, a replacement was sent from the warehouse. If the item was returned, we were immediately overstocked.
I had people come in and purchase three varieties of the same thing. When offered help to find the correct product, they would blow us off with, "I'll just return the two I don't want later." Ok, why don't you let me help you so you only purchase one today and save us all the hassle of the return later??
Also, if it wasn't in perfect condition, we either had to sell it at a reduced cost (often at a loss) or throw it out (again, a loss). Because of this, we did ban some of our heavy returners from the store. We had a certain subset of shoppers who liked to buy things, play with them at home, and then return them so they could buy more things. After a while, we had to invoke our right to refuse service to them since they were blatantly abusing our store.
I kid you not, when I used to work at a department store, some lady bought an umbrella when it was pouring rain outside, then came back in when the sun came out and tried to return it. I called a manager over because she had her receipt, but did she honestly expect me to take back her soaking wet umbrella??? The manager refused to return it. The lady got really upset and said since we have no clause in our return policy about refusing returns that include a receipt, we have to take it back! The manager called her boss. Her boss told her to go ahead and accept the return (just to avoid a scene,) and then to write the lady's name and information down in case she tried to do it again. They told the lady they would accept it "this one time." Craziness...
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I once bought 7 pairs of boots from Zappos, tried them all on and returned 6 of them. Gotta love free return shipping