Yes she did. This stinks just like all the other missing children stories. People with small children need to get alarm systems and double bolt locks, if this epidemic of people coming into your house to steal your children continues. Then what will be their story?
He was the last one to see her alive? Sounds like to me she knows a little more than she is saying and she is way to calm .........just sayin. I could never say see her alive I wouldn't even begin to think she is/was dead Wake up!
No marriage...and that's part of the story. Any child born out of wedlock is at higher risk (which is not to say that a marriage guarantees anything...it's just a better chance for the kids).
Yes, unfortunately she did say it. This is the kind of verbal slip up that the police wait for to further their investigation. Parents of missing children will not, psychologically, be prone to respond with a distinct acceptance of the child's death. Naturally, they would respond in denial to the death, especially after only 13 days. Just a thought.
What absolutely bothers me the most is the fact that the FATHER has not made any pleas to the public, that he is not speaking to the child's mother. Think about it. He knows the mother and if he would interact with her, he may see something in her that others don't, IF she had anything to do with it. Vise versa, she may see something in him. Matt was right, the police should insist they interact.
Personally, I didn't react to the words of the mother like most. Last one to see her alive could go two ways. I have this GUT feeling that the father is involved in some way. I think he may have had information that the mother filed for the parent rights and stuff and instead of letting the courts decide he took this in his own hands. I feel he is hiding her. Why parents think they will ever get away with that is beyond me but I guess as a parent you don't think it all the way out. It's just a feeling and could be wrong, but this father is being very closed off and showing very bad feeling to the mother. I just think he knows more.
Read the story knuckleheads she is not a suspect. She lives 75 miles away and was home that night. She wants to talk to the Father because she thinks he did something to her daughter. That's why she said he was the last to see her alive. come on people.
Monkeysanna, you like many other man haters, dont actually read the story.
The MOTHER left!!! She went into Alcohol Rehab, completed it, and then STAYED 75 miles AWAY from her daughter. All she had to do was go home. But for what ever reason she didnt, she CHOSE not to see her Daughter. I know thats not a possible concept for many of the posters, but its what she did.
As far as the broken arm, The Dr, that treated it came forward and Said it was due to an accident, and NOT abuse. Oops that pees on your man hating parade doesnt it?
The Police and FBI have prevented the Father from assisting in the search, i havent heard one word here in Maine, about the MOTHER wanting to help, you know the Mother that chose not to go home and see her Daughter.
Also even though MSNBC didnt report it, the Father has made TWO statements AND a plea for anyone that knows about her to come forward.
Once more the Mother is more concerned about what the Father is doing and not about her daughter.
Police need to look at the Mother, contact the mothers lawyer, or any Woman's Group the Rehab center may have put her in contact with, theres a very good chance that she had her daughter taken by someone on her behalf.
That's the same thing I thought when I heard about the two year old, mom supposedly left buckled in his car seat along the interstate to go get gas...... As for dad not speaking to her, means nothing especially when she's fresh out of recovery, anyone can fake it till you make it out of recovery..... He's probably gone to hell and back time and time again over this and she's making statements to point the finger at him.... Manipulating others to get a means to your end game is what addicts do.... I wouldn't trust her until she proves her self as being a constructive parent and do whats in the best interest of the child, and taking her away from her primary care provider (her dad) isn't in her best interest any more than using one's drug of choice in the first place.....
I think the mother fears for her child's life and the bruises and fall have her worried her baby has been harmed and killed. I think she feels if she talked to the dad, she could get him to tell her what happened. She needs her baby back and if he killed her, she needs to know. She will search his words and responses for the truth. She knows him. She will know more after speaking to him even if he does not admit to anything. If he is lying, she will know. She is desperately trying to find the answers we all would in this situation.
The father has talked to the public since the child went missing, in response to the false rumors the mother of his child spread about him. He is FULLY cooperating with the police, and has been since the second he didn't see her in her bed that saturday morning. He has opened up his life to PROFESSIONALS, not the nation, he doesn't want to be famous from the fact that his daughter is missing. The mother filed for sole custody right after she got out of rehab, and has been talking smack about him since the media came knocking on her door, obviously he isn't going to want to talk to such a horrible woman. She is the only one who has implied the child is dead, that is concerning, and it is something the police should and will pick up on.
The mother did not file for sole custody. She filed for parental rights and responsibilities. Meaning visitation. How is she talking smack? She simply can't understand why he won't talk to her. She is a horrible woman? Okay, she has an alcohol problem, she went to rehab and is hopefully in AA and ongoing outpatient treatment. How is that horrible? The child disappeared while under care and control of her father, NOT her mother. She was 75 miles away from her child. There are three possible scenarios here 1) The father has hidden the child because he does not want the mother to regain visitation rights. 2) The child was killed, either accidentally or purposefully by the father or someone who had access to the child. 3) The child really was taken by someone in the middle of the night from the child's home. The police can't act until they have proof of what happened to the child. They may have strong suspicions of what happened, but without proof there is no prosecution. The truth will come out sooner or later. I really hope that this child is alive and well somewhere. But as most of these cases go that usually isn't the case.
I don't know that it's concerning, after 2 weeks. Everyone isn't going to respond the same, some people take a more practical view of things, which can strike others the wrong way. Statistically speaking the odds of this having a happy ending are extremely low. They way she said it merely makes me think SHE thinks he knows or did something - which is really not all that significant, because what else does she have to go on? Doesn't mean she's right or wrong, she simply doesn't know and is grabbing at straws.
I thought it was odd, also, that she would say "last to see her alive", as if she were implying something. I have a bad feeling about this woman. I can't place what it is exactly, but I feel like she may know more than she's letting on. And going public pointing fingers at the father, no wonder he won't talk to her.
I just hope this little girl is found safe and sound.
Radical, YOU are the one who didn't read the artice. The MOTHER wasn't there. She was 75 miles away. First off, I how do you get that I am a "MAN HATER" from my post??? You are completely wrong. I think, and again my personal opinion, that IF the father had something to do with it, it was because he didn't want the mother to have the child. I haven't seen ANY public appearances from the father, just a statement. Most parents will use the media to appeal to the public to assist in the search for their child. I think you need to study the article a little more. The article also stated that the father wasn't being cooperative on allowing the mother to see the child. I didn't write it, radical, I just read it.
I don't think the father purposely hurt this child and he may not have hurt her at ll, but he may not have wanted the mother to have her either. My post by NO MEANS showed hate towards MEN!!!! You assumed that yourself.
She's implying (or not) that after 2 weeks her kid might not still be alive.
I really don't see why that's suspicious - unfortunately it's probably true, unless the dad is hiding her. Why is accepting what most of us probably are thinking suspicious? Because we want her to hold out hope for years, and be wailing and tearing out her hair on tv?
This is too sad..... I don't know if any of the family is involved in her disappearance or not, but it seems like in the majority of these cases, one of the parents (or caretakers) has killed the child.
While I have always thought we need less government in our private lives; I am now coming to the opinion that there should be licenses for becoming a parent. It seems like every week you hear about some child being abused or murdered by their parents, perhaps with screening and classes on parenting, we would have less children in foster care and less of these cases.
Think about it... we are required to take classes and pass a test before we can drive a car and people are screened (in most cases) BEFORE they can adopt, why not insist on screening and licensing PRIOR to procreating? If it would save the life of even one child it would be worth it!
First of all, Radical, how do you know that she lived with the father before she went into rehab. There is no indication in the article that they were actually married. She could have been living in Portland, Maine with the child before going to rehab but the child was placed with the dad when she did go to rehab. That would put her living 75 miles away before and after rehab. 10 days rehab does not mean you lose your place of residence.
I am a single father and very tired of all the trash being thrown at fathers. In this case the mother was the one that was addicted and chose alcohol over her child. It is likely that what ever happened to this little child was done to her by someone entrusted to care for her. It is disgusting but so is the instant judgement against the father. I have my girls because their mother and her boyfriend were abusing and neglecting them to the point my ex lost her rights to them, something rarely done in this state-it's not always the father.
Does anyone know if there were signs of forced entry to the house?
We don't get any details on this Maine story down here.
If the Dad is fully cooperating with the Police, but they won't tell the Mom anything, it raises my suspicions.
Not that they would tell you much, but I would ask her some things to confirm his story if I were the police. And you would pick up a good bit based on the questions they ask.
Sadly, the police are really mainly traffic cops designed to collect revenue. The unsolved murder rate has GONE up over the years. Despite all the new technology.
Meanwhile more police than ever are on traffic duty with record ticket revenue.
I really wish these cases were more of a priority. Can't they just pretend that every murder case was a murder of a fellow officer (those cases they actually solve at a high rate).
I hope someone is just hiding this kid. But my logical side doesn't really think there will be a good ending.
@professormarine: The child was in the care of the father when she went missing. The state took the child and gave her to her dad while mom was in rehab. It is a great thing that you are a good father, but in this case, suspicion on the dad is warranted.
I don't think we are getting the full picture. The father seems to be working with the police and the behavior of the mother, i feel a misdirection from what she is saying....think a lie detector for both is in order.
Why did she refer to the baby not being alive? There is no indication baby is dead just missing and yet mother said Justin last to see baby alive. As a mother I would be holding out hope forever that my baby is alive until her body was found.
That struck me, too. I get a stalker vibe from her, and I would not be surprised to learn that she did something to the kid as part of some demented scheme to reconcile with the baby's father.
Yes, I would think you would hold out hope, yet this also could be saying she thinks he did something to her. Two year olds are adventurous, but to have an injury that needs a cast, and then suddenly "go missing", that just seems to me a little more suspect. That being said, if you are innocent and everyone is pointing the finger at you can you imagine how much more pain you would be in...I just sure hope they find this little girl!
This kind of thing is happening much more often (or at least being reported more these days). I am sure there is much more to this whole story than has come out so far -- Seems almost anyone can have a baby -- but does not mean they can be good parents -- yet couple who really want babies can not have them -- anyways...I only hope the baby is found alive and healthy very soon.
Having not been there, I do not know what exactly, the mother said. Did she really say " alive"? or is the reporter interjecting their interpretation? In the video, she said he was the last to her ( the baby).
As for visiting, the other stories state that the father would not let her visit after Nov. 21. Hmm.
What ever happened to the last couple that had their baby missing. That happened about 3 months ago. I never heard a conclusion to that story. Funny thing about the two stories, both mothers drank. I'm willing to bet theres more similarities, to both of these cases. Its pretty messed up having your little baby stolen and it just amazes me it can happen. After the first story, you'd think parents of little children like that, would take every extra precautions to make sure their baby was always safe. Its just way too hard for me to believe that someone can come into their homes without them hearing them and they take their baby. What if the baby was crying, would they hear that? This is just way to unbelievable for me that it can even happen, without anyone seeing something. Its a good thing no one ever tried to take my son when he was a baby. That would of at least brought the end to one of these child thieves. This is just too much for me to accept and understand and it makes me suspicious of the parents and their friends or family.
Joe - what else can you do? Put your kids to sleep and lock your doors. Sometimes horrible things happen to normal people, and sometimes normal people do horrible things - that's just the world we live in.
Since there is no evidence of anything, I will refrain from speculating. There will be plenty of people on this vine doing just that. Have at it, folks.
I agree. Not enough to speculate or draw conclusions. It amazes me how people seem to "know" what happened. I'll withhold mine until more info comes in. All I can do right now is pray that baby is found and that she is safe.
I think we all watch too much TV -- be it fiction crime shows and "real-life" crime news shows -- we all think we know it all now --because we have seen "stuff just like this before" -- somewhere or the other. That said - is this a "copy cat" thing? -- who knows -- hopefully everything will turn out well for all concerned.
Agreed. Reading thru the comments, what jumps out at me is how many people immediately assume the father did it. Yet the police have stated the father is not a suspect. From past examples, you know the police immediately suspect one if not both parents in something like this. For them to say what they did probably means they have a good reason for thinking he isn't involved. But of course all the psychics on these forums know different.
They said the Mother was not a suspect not the Father. He's the main suspect I'm sure since he was the last person to see her before she came up missing.
Rob;The father is Not a suspect and is cooperating 100% with law enforcement,I have several friends that live in Waterville and know the father.I personally do not know him. however I have spoken to my friends and thats what I was told.
Being that this is in the public eye & in the media, I think that the police would say that the father/mother are not suspects, in order to make them think they aren't so that they, idk, "relax" in a way or don't get suspicious as to how much they are actually being investigated. Everyone can have their opinions on who they think did it, but ultimately it's up to law enforcement to figure it out, until then it's going to be all a bunch of "he said-she said." But I do hope they find that precious little baby alive & safe.
You mean the police are giving them enough rope to hang themselves, like by saying something stupid on national tv such as "he was the last one to see her alive"??
Could be possible you never know. Hell, for all we know the police probably started examining the mother more after she said that statement, or they weren't to worried about it, because maybe just maybe they took into consideration that she is just accepting reality & what COULD be the outcome of this situation. The police are the ones who have all the reason to speculate as to why she said what she said, who knows, maybe after that statement she probably made herself the #1 suspect in law enforcement's eyes. But we aren't the ones there doing the investigating....all we have is our opinions & that's mine.
the problem with this news story is that a kid is missing and the police or the father is keeping the mother out of the loop. That's why the mother went public for help to keep her in the loop. Whether or not that there was a custody battle for care of child in their past, the mother is not satisfy with whatever information she had about the case of her baby being taken and missing.
It is this time again that americans should pull out our baseball bat and clobber the local government of maine and everybody involve--including the mom and dad of the missing baby. Hopefully then, the perp would return the child safe and sound.
Since there is no evidence of anything, I will refrain from speculating. There will be plenty of people on this vine doing just that. Have at it, folks.
I really do hope YOU'RE Kidding! What a waste of a post. So glad you took time out of your busy day to log on and judge others for using a forum the way it was intended: To share ideas & opinions - including speculation!
And Kat, it amazes me how many people don't KNOW the purpose of newsvine, but still feel compelled to tell others how they should be thinking. Get a clue!
Is it just me, or doesn't this little girl have a similar look to the baby that went missing in Kansas City and is also about same age? Can't assume there is any connection, but does seem odd. Parents in both situations seem a bit sketchy, but that might be exactly what some sicko out there is looking for.
There is also a missing toddler in Seattle right now. Says someone stole him out of her car that she left him in after she ran out of gas. Police says the car was not out of gas and had no mechanical problems. These stories are so unbelievable. I feel sorry for anyone who does end up having a child kidnapped because no one will believe them.
Did anyone just hear her say, "He was the last one to see her ALIVE," why would she assume she is dead?? The father said he is hopefull that she is alive and someone has her... how does she know she is not alive??? That was just very odd to me!
Yes, they did. Not an original observation -- look at comments #1 & #2. But use of that phrase does not actually imply anything concerning what this woman thinks about the status of her child or any possible guilt on her part. That is just a phrase in the American lexicon that is used all the time when someone goes missing -- it is used on every TV cop show and real-life press release. I can easily see how the phrase would come out given the pressure this woman is under. It is called a "figure of speech" people! Give this woman a break! He was the last person known to have seen this child alive. Hopefully someone else will eventually see her alive again. Until then, there is absolutely nothing inaccurate about this woman's statement. Maybe you can all take a break from playing Perry Mason and just hope this child is found and brought back to her family in one piece. Then the mother can happily say that she has seen her child alive, too.
i couldnt have said it any better. because if an officer of the law were asked the same question, they would have answered it the same exact way, because this is how u woud answer the question. ; ) cheesh this does not make her look guilty of anything.
Absolutely untrue. That phrase IS used on every crime show and real-life press release but ONLY when referring to one who is KNOWN dead. You just don't say "last person to see her alive" if she is, in fact, still alive!! You would just say "he was the last person to see her".
This is no different than if she had said "We loved her so much"...
Exactly saddened, I think the same thing. I think people are reading too much into the phrase and that will be ALL anyone focuses on. I honestly don't think she meant it the way people are "assuming". You hear that phrase on the news all the time. Personally I find the way the father is treating the mother concerning. I don't care if you don;t like each other, this is your missing child and you should be working together. He is not pleading to the public or showing us anything.
You are right -- we are not the police nor are we "solving anything here" -- nothing is proven and we might all be "jumping on" a few word spoke by a young woman who is clearly under stress -- still whenever someone speaks of someone in the "past tense' -- "we loved" her. "last saw her alive" -- we have all (unfairly?)been "programmed" from past news stories, crime shows -- Nancy Grace --etc to ses something hidden in these words.
"Last person to see her alive". Not knowing if she is still alive or not, I would say with absolute certainty the father was the last one to see her alive. Now, if someone else took her, then they would be the last to see her alive.
And after a couple of weeks the possibility that her baby might be dead has probably started taking hold in this woman's mind.
Since when do we judge people for accepting what may very well be reality? We can think, she can't? Hell a part of AA (and many rehab programs) is learning to accept things as they are, and not how you imagine them to be.
I believe the parents are somehow involved in the disappearance. They both seem a little suspicious. Hate to say it but the outcome of this story doesn't seem good.
I agree. And I think we can all thank the Casey Anthony jury for this new trend... Seems it started kicking up a notch after that skank was aquitted. people are thinking "If Casey can get away with it, so can I".
for the life of me I don't understand how anyone could ever have the *thought* to hurt a child. it is disgusting and anyone who harms a child in any way, shape or form is the lowest of the low and believe me the world will be better off without them in it. I am still waiting for someone to give me the compelling argument AGAINST death penalty for anyone that hurts a child. It should be the automatic sentence - no questions, no appeals.
Just look at the still picture of her. She has that "I am a bitch, so what" look all over her face. Something isn't right. Dad probably took her to get her away from the mom
I believe the dad is hiding her... and not because she's a bitch, but because she has substance abuse problems. Weren't there previous articles that said she lost custody of her child when she had to go to rehab?
If I were the father and knew my ex was an addict and trying to get the kid back... you can bet I'd send my daughter away to a relative. Even at the risk of ending up in jail.
Harold, she entered rehab, but I'm not sure she lost custody. I can see your point, and believe me, my family lives this everyday. My husband did take his daughter due to a drug/drunken mother. He didn't return her after visitation when my step-daughter at age 5 said "mommy puts powdered sugar on everything". She wanted powdered sugar on her mashed potatoes. He was charged with kidnapping, served 4 years and that was 19 years ago. Parents make rash decisions, understandably so, but they have long term results. IF this is what the father did, it won't help the child or himself. I think the father did do something, not saying he harmed her, because he didn't want the mother to have her. I just hope the child is safe. Parents don't always make the best decisions in times like this, but those decisions don't always benefit the child.
Just wanted to confirm that nothing you said in your previous posts could be construed as "man hating". I guess someone didn't like that you ALL CAPPED the word father.
I absolutely do not hate men. Married happily for 16 years. I think if he had something to do with it, it would be because he had the child's interest at heart. GOing about it the wrong way? Probably. Experience speaking on that. My husband tried to protect his daughter (explained in previous post) and served 4 years (19 years ago) for not handling it properly. Parents TRY to do the right thing but sometimes emotions lead us down the wrong path. Sometimes we don't think ahead, but we try to do the best thing. I just hope and pray that whoever has her comes to their senses and realizes it before they dig that hole to deep.
I'm disgusted with how many children are turning up "missing" these days. Parents are losing their minds and hurting their own children has become a new trend too. I'm appalled!
Oh Kayner I think you are wrong, I think there are more and more children being murdered by a parent. I think part of it has to be that there are so many young single parents out there. Not that being young or single makes you an automatic bad parent (I was 20 when I had my son and for 6 years have raised him by myself and aside from the occasional spanking I have never done him harm). I also think that the other part is the amount of people addicted to drugs that are having children. It's a sad sad world we live in.
kb, it is possible you are correct, but also just as likely Kayner is correct. Without actual evidence -- you know what evidence is, right? -- to support either point, it is a useless argument to enter in to.
Good point...this is the Casey Anthony effect. How many parents saw someone who was publicly reviled and convicted get off of a murder rap?
Not only do I blame her defense attorney for introducing a great new layering tactic called lie about everything and make ridiculous and unfounded allegations, I blame the prosecutor for rushing to convict this horrible person.
Now, every no good selfish parent who blames their child for their problems instead of themselves has a blueprint for how to get away with murder.
Depends on what you mean. Parents abducting children because of custody disputes is up. Parents killing their kids, or abductions by strangers is consistently flow. We just hear about it more often.
Sadly, another baby disposed of by her parents. I don't recall who was first Susan Smith or that Duckett woman, but, people just throw their children away and waste police resoources looking for them when they know they murdered them.
I'd expect this in other countries, but, not America! Poor litte angel! We have birth control and adoption.
why not in America? if anything it should expected more in America than in other countries.. think about it... American society is one of easy disposal. Americans don't fix items, they throw them out and get new ones - look for a TV repair shop or a furniture repair shop in your neighborhood -find any?. if marriage is too difficult, they divorce rather than work it out. if the child is using drugs they kick the child to the curb rather than intervene. so following that logic, the youth of america have been raise on a get-rid-of-it mentality-and-look-for-your-instant-gratification-without-care diet. this things you see in American Society now are not the problem, they are the symptom of a much, much larger problem. of course this wasn't always the case. look back at the time of the greatest generation. 1900-1960.
Hurry up and call the Waterville Police Department at (207) 680-4700. You need to fill them in on all the little details of this case, since you seem to know what REALLY happened.
are you kidding me "not in america", this is the most hateful,mean spirited, racist country in the world. they want to be the police of the world, they start wars for no reason and millions are killed.they want to preach morality, yet have more divorces, unwed births, drug use. they hate anyone who does not look like them.killing your children, spouses or perfect strangers is very american.
Hmm, comparing my 2 comments, in 2 different replies, both with different info. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you so close to home, it wasn't my intention to bring out the feeling stupid feeling in you. You have my apologies.
Regarding her comment about him being the last to see her alive...........how many babies and children are showing up alive lately? I am so saddened by this but realistically, they aren't showing up alive. Yes, you want to have hope, huge hopes, but maybe she is just thinking realistically and said what she really felt. He WAS the last to see her alive.
Caitey: ------- Were that my daughter, I would desparately hope she to be alive and well, but I would also, desparately fear death. Do you suspect absolute perfection in a mother who is beside herself with worry?
she seems detached. as if she doe not really feel the gravity of the situation. this generation of 20-30 year old are heavy drug users and party goers. the majority of them are very narcissistic and lack empathy. it stands to reason, look at the media messages they are bombarded with. "The Jersey Shore", "Survivor", "Paradise Hotel", "Temptation Island", "Are You Hot?" and the list goes on. tell me how do we as a society expect a young mother to show remorse, empathy, distraught emotions, genuine feelings if all she has been taught is "Reality TV that pushes manipulation, conniving, narcissism, lying, cheating and so on, the shows uses those acts to seek higher ratings while at the same time debasing American Society's moral fiber. yes she's not very distraught.. she can't be... she doesn't understand how, or worst yet doesn't understand the concept of actually caring.
Will - I agreed with your first post whole heartedly, however this post hit home. I am 29 in a week and not all 20-30 yr olds are heavy drug users and part goers so please do not group all us in that category! I personally and 75% of my friends work 40 hrs wk, do not watch any of the shows listed and do not use drugs. Sure when we all were in our early 20s we all went to bars, partied, however we grew up, have feelings just like everyone else. So please please do not lump all 20-30 yr olds in one group. Perhaps I am taking your post to personally but I hope you dont think that of all of us.
I call bull@!$%#, This girl looks fishy and i just have a gut feeling she either killed that kid and her boyfriend, or the two of them are in it together in some way. Just seems fake.
So let's just get a rope and string her up now. Why bother with a little thing like a trial -- it just costs tax payer's money, anyway. You have a "gut feeling" she's guilty -- that's good enough proof, I guess. (*sarcasm* folks)
She didn't have custody. The child was not with her. What reason could you possibly have to convict this woman at this point in the investigation? Snap judgements like this not only make me sad, but they scare me a little, too. I hope you do not end up in a jury pool someday.
If you read the article, she lives 75 miles away from where her ex-boyfriend lives. She was at home when the child went missing, and she did not have custody and she hasn't even seen the child since the 21st of November. So, tell me, how is she involved? I don't think she did it and some folks on here already have her convicted. She said a stupid statement but maybe she was trying to be dramatic. Instead of looking at the one that did not have the child at her house lets look at the one that did.
Let's think about this, he puts her to bed and i'm sure locks his doors before going to bed himself. Come on folks..a child that age doesn't get up, unlock a door and walk out. He has to know what happened to that baby!
"Just like, talk to me. Like, talk to me. ...we used to get along so great...".
Um. Sorry lady. You're a nut job and he doesn't want anything to do with you. Shouldn't you be a little bit more concerned with your child then your relationship?
"He was the last person to see her alive."
Who's to say she is not alive? Her. Is she implicating herself? Yes.
I can not believe she said that on national television!! "He was the last person to see her alive" theres something not right about this girl....I felt it just be looking at her, but the more she talked the more suspisious I became. I wouldn't be surprised she she has something to do with this..poor baby girl!
If social services wanted this child away from her home and she has a cast on her arm, I really hope this guy has that baby with someone that is keeping her safe and that she is still alive.
The father was in fact the last one to see her alive. He put her to bed the night before she went missing. Have you heard of anyone else that has seen her alive since then?! The mom's message did not imply the baby was dead..she wants to talk to the one who saw her last. Makes sense to me.
yes also makes sense to me. so far so good regarding the tangibles and factual of the matter. what I think bothers people myself included is her lack of empathy or concern for the child's safety or actual alarm at the immensity of the situation
I think most all of us here understand what this young lady was trying to say -(I want to talk to the person who was last with my baby) -- However, many here are jumping on the exactly words she used .. eg: is she hiding something? Accusing the fatherrof someting? covering up something, Setting him up ? -etc. I nor anyone esle here knows all the facts -- Maybe just a poor chosice of words on the part of a girl under stress --maybe not --
Maybe after 2 weeks the idea that her child is probably dead has become all too much a reality for her. Christ almighty people grab onto anything when stories like these break. Also how do any of you know what she's feeling? Because she's not collapsed into a heap, she's not showing empathy? Empathy for who, herself? Do you people even know what empathy means? WE feel empathy for HER, she feels the primary emotions, sorry, fear, anger, etc. That she doesn't show them all 2 weeks after the fact on national tv is a meaningless observation. She could simply be trying to remain calm so she doesn't come off as hysterical and making accusations, and people are saying she has no feelings?
I don't want to live on this world with the rest of you sometimes.
The broken arm doesn't sound good. If people find their children to be such a burden there are places to take them and give them up where they will be in better hands. Don't have them if you can't or won't take care of them. Birth control is very easy! Sad story for this precious little girl. It breaks my heart.
A responsible, good parent that I work with had a 4 year old who tripped over a stuffed animal in the living room and broke his arm 2 years ago over the holidays. A broken arm doesn't mean anything.
I believe it was mentioned that the dr. who looked at the child's arm said himself that it was from an accident 4 weeks prior.....who knows tho I guess everyone is going to believe what they want, doesn't matter what anyone else says....
Matilda:- I would as well but did she look in any way beside herself? She didn't to me and no i do not expect perfection, but she was a little too sure of herself.
Maybe she's gone thru the stages and has accepted that her baby girl is most likely dead?
That can have a pretty drastic effect on your demeanor. She might be more angry than sad at this point, and wants answers. Or she's simply turned it off so as not to be overwhelmed.
I suspect that being the last person to see the child, and obviously responsible for her safety, that he's having a hard time facing her (the mother) I know it would be very difficult for me to face the mother of our child if she went missing. I am not excusing him, I think he should talk with her, but I do have some empathy for his situation.
Well, hate to say it but the Mom is a train wreck. I think that while she had nothing to do with the little girl being missing, she is relishing in the media hype instead of helping to look for the little girl. "They're (the police-DiPietro) are not giving me any information other than what I see on the news".
If I was this little girls father, I'd stay off of the Today Show and be out in the fields looking for her. Every time I see the previews and she's included...I wince up just a little bit.
Why Oh Why don't we, When a child is BORN, give them a SS number and implant a chip in them so they can be found!!!! We already do it to high priced DOGS and Horses & Cattle???????
The chips put in dogs doesn't allow you to find them, it simply allows vets to scan dogs that are brought in and see if the dog has been reported missing.
Not to mention, I would not be okay with the government implanting a GPS chip in my child.
how about instead of a chip. assign a device to a child? like a little pocket item that you can Velcro to the child's clothing or diaper similar to the GPS tracking used in phones? this device can be bought at any best Buy or even online- there are tons of places you can buy them, some of them look like watches for kids. some of them are as tiny as a USB flash drive that u can sew into your child's backpack so they can never remove it unless they set out to do it intentionally. as a parent I would use them if it meant the safety of my child. I wouldn't consider it spying because it is my child and his/her safety is paramount above all else.
I would get a chip put in my baby today if it was possible. There are too many things out there that can happen to your kids. Why wouldn't you want to know where they are if you needed to? If kids had chips parents would more often know whether their kids are dead or alive if they are missing because they could be found. A whole lot less little Janey or Johnny Does too. Just a thought...
There's not really a lot of things that can happen to your child that would be prevented by a chip. The odds of a stranger abducting your kid are something like 1 in 10 million. If anyone's going to hurt them, it'll probably be you.
@Capt Tripps - yes, the jewelry, clothing or whatever could be removed, if the person who took your child knew what the jewelry was, but it could still lead the police to where your child was at some point, unless it was removed in the house.
And no, a chip wouldn't prevent anything, though if it led to finding the child, all the better.
In 1996 the idea of an implanted chip was introduced, supposedly to locate a kidnapped child.
In reality, it was so the insurance agency could pull the plug on grandma and grandpa when their medical procedures were going to get too high. It was also suggested that we could determine who was "illegal" and who wasn't. They were implanting bugs with the chips to test them out.
As you can see, NOTHING happened with this idea going forward. Can you imagine the abuse this type of futurama drama would have wrought?
There is very deep concern for a child on my part. I will pray for this. One thing, though, in reference to the editing before an article is put online is the critique. Seeing a conflict where there shouldn't be one is hard to keep concentration in line. God will manage what cannot be managed by humans.
Just because the mother was 75 miles away, does not mean that she did not have a friend or pay someone to take the child because the father was not allowing her to see the child. Her being at home that night does not mean anything.
It is very strange that the father, or any other family members did not hear anything that night. I have a grandson that is 2, and I hear him move all night long, and for someone to come in through the door or a window, I would most definitely hear that.
The father not talking is also a bit alarming. If it was my child, I would be on every radio station and television station, pleading that my child was safely returned. Yet, I have only seen the story on Nancy Grace and have heard nothing else about it other than from that show.
We can sit and point fingers at both parents, but until more evidence comes up, accusations are not going to find this girl. And I pray that they find her alive and well.
Why does anyone still watch Nancy Grace? She is such garbage.
My kids actually got up 2 or 3 times, got dressed opened the front door and went on the porch to play, at around 3 years old. I had to put a latch on the inside of the front door because of it. I didn't wake up, nor did their mother.
It happens. Why people think everyone sleeps like them I dunno, but we are usually dead to the world. I don't even wake up when my kids come get in bed with me, unless it's around the time my alarm goes off and I'm coming out of it.
"He was the last person to see her alive", Did she really just say that?
So what?
Yes she did. This stinks just like all the other missing children stories. People with small children need to get alarm systems and double bolt locks, if this epidemic of people coming into your house to steal your children continues. Then what will be their story?
I noticed that too. It's like she is implying that she is dead. At this stage of the game she very well could be, as sad as that is to say.
That really got to me too, how does she know she isn't alive?
He was the last one to see her alive? Sounds like to me she knows a little more than she is saying and she is way to calm .........just sayin. I could never say see her alive I wouldn't even begin to think she is/was dead Wake up!
Obviously another marriage made in Hell....
No marriage...and that's part of the story. Any child born out of wedlock is at higher risk (which is not to say that a marriage guarantees anything...it's just a better chance for the kids).
Yes, unfortunately she did say it. This is the kind of verbal slip up that the police wait for to further their investigation. Parents of missing children will not, psychologically, be prone to respond with a distinct acceptance of the child's death. Naturally, they would respond in denial to the death, especially after only 13 days. Just a thought.
Come on MSNBC proof readers do your job for pete's sake..3rd paragraph: "she has tried to to reach out to Reynolds"
Reynolds is the "she" Good Grief!!!
@Rick,
Obviously another Relationship gone to Hell ???
I agree, to many children born to couples in just a relationship.....
What absolutely bothers me the most is the fact that the FATHER has not made any pleas to the public, that he is not speaking to the child's mother. Think about it. He knows the mother and if he would interact with her, he may see something in her that others don't, IF she had anything to do with it. Vise versa, she may see something in him. Matt was right, the police should insist they interact.
Personally, I didn't react to the words of the mother like most. Last one to see her alive could go two ways. I have this GUT feeling that the father is involved in some way. I think he may have had information that the mother filed for the parent rights and stuff and instead of letting the courts decide he took this in his own hands. I feel he is hiding her. Why parents think they will ever get away with that is beyond me but I guess as a parent you don't think it all the way out. It's just a feeling and could be wrong, but this father is being very closed off and showing very bad feeling to the mother. I just think he knows more.
Read the story knuckleheads she is not a suspect. She lives 75 miles away and was home that night. She wants to talk to the Father because she thinks he did something to her daughter. That's why she said he was the last to see her alive. come on people.
Monkeysanna, you like many other man haters, dont actually read the story.
The MOTHER left!!! She went into Alcohol Rehab, completed it, and then STAYED 75 miles AWAY from her daughter. All she had to do was go home. But for what ever reason she didnt, she CHOSE not to see her Daughter. I know thats not a possible concept for many of the posters, but its what she did.
As far as the broken arm, The Dr, that treated it came forward and Said it was due to an accident, and NOT abuse. Oops that pees on your man hating parade doesnt it?
The Police and FBI have prevented the Father from assisting in the search, i havent heard one word here in Maine, about the MOTHER wanting to help, you know the Mother that chose not to go home and see her Daughter.
Also even though MSNBC didnt report it, the Father has made TWO statements AND a plea for anyone that knows about her to come forward.
Once more the Mother is more concerned about what the Father is doing and not about her daughter.
Police need to look at the Mother, contact the mothers lawyer, or any Woman's Group the Rehab center may have put her in contact with, theres a very good chance that she had her daughter taken by someone on her behalf.
That's the same thing I thought when I heard about the two year old, mom supposedly left buckled in his car seat along the interstate to go get gas...... As for dad not speaking to her, means nothing especially when she's fresh out of recovery, anyone can fake it till you make it out of recovery..... He's probably gone to hell and back time and time again over this and she's making statements to point the finger at him.... Manipulating others to get a means to your end game is what addicts do.... I wouldn't trust her until she proves her self as being a constructive parent and do whats in the best interest of the child, and taking her away from her primary care provider (her dad) isn't in her best interest any more than using one's drug of choice in the first place.....
I think the mother fears for her child's life and the bruises and fall have her worried her baby has been harmed and killed. I think she feels if she talked to the dad, she could get him to tell her what happened. She needs her baby back and if he killed her, she needs to know. She will search his words and responses for the truth. She knows him. She will know more after speaking to him even if he does not admit to anything. If he is lying, she will know. She is desperately trying to find the answers we all would in this situation.
The father has talked to the public since the child went missing, in response to the false rumors the mother of his child spread about him. He is FULLY cooperating with the police, and has been since the second he didn't see her in her bed that saturday morning. He has opened up his life to PROFESSIONALS, not the nation, he doesn't want to be famous from the fact that his daughter is missing. The mother filed for sole custody right after she got out of rehab, and has been talking smack about him since the media came knocking on her door, obviously he isn't going to want to talk to such a horrible woman. She is the only one who has implied the child is dead, that is concerning, and it is something the police should and will pick up on.
The mother did not file for sole custody. She filed for parental rights and responsibilities. Meaning visitation. How is she talking smack? She simply can't understand why he won't talk to her. She is a horrible woman? Okay, she has an alcohol problem, she went to rehab and is hopefully in AA and ongoing outpatient treatment. How is that horrible? The child disappeared while under care and control of her father, NOT her mother. She was 75 miles away from her child. There are three possible scenarios here 1) The father has hidden the child because he does not want the mother to regain visitation rights. 2) The child was killed, either accidentally or purposefully by the father or someone who had access to the child. 3) The child really was taken by someone in the middle of the night from the child's home. The police can't act until they have proof of what happened to the child. They may have strong suspicions of what happened, but without proof there is no prosecution. The truth will come out sooner or later. I really hope that this child is alive and well somewhere. But as most of these cases go that usually isn't the case.
I don't know that it's concerning, after 2 weeks. Everyone isn't going to respond the same, some people take a more practical view of things, which can strike others the wrong way. Statistically speaking the odds of this having a happy ending are extremely low. They way she said it merely makes me think SHE thinks he knows or did something - which is really not all that significant, because what else does she have to go on? Doesn't mean she's right or wrong, she simply doesn't know and is grabbing at straws.
I thought it was odd, also, that she would say "last to see her alive", as if she were implying something. I have a bad feeling about this woman. I can't place what it is exactly, but I feel like she may know more than she's letting on. And going public pointing fingers at the father, no wonder he won't talk to her.
I just hope this little girl is found safe and sound.
Radical, YOU are the one who didn't read the artice. The MOTHER wasn't there. She was 75 miles away. First off, I how do you get that I am a "MAN HATER" from my post??? You are completely wrong. I think, and again my personal opinion, that IF the father had something to do with it, it was because he didn't want the mother to have the child. I haven't seen ANY public appearances from the father, just a statement. Most parents will use the media to appeal to the public to assist in the search for their child. I think you need to study the article a little more. The article also stated that the father wasn't being cooperative on allowing the mother to see the child. I didn't write it, radical, I just read it.
I don't think the father purposely hurt this child and he may not have hurt her at ll, but he may not have wanted the mother to have her either. My post by NO MEANS showed hate towards MEN!!!! You assumed that yourself.
She's implying (or not) that after 2 weeks her kid might not still be alive.
I really don't see why that's suspicious - unfortunately it's probably true, unless the dad is hiding her. Why is accepting what most of us probably are thinking suspicious? Because we want her to hold out hope for years, and be wailing and tearing out her hair on tv?
Problems with you guys, not her, at this point.
Even Casey Anthony knew better than to say something like that!
This is too sad..... I don't know if any of the family is involved in her disappearance or not, but it seems like in the majority of these cases, one of the parents (or caretakers) has killed the child.
While I have always thought we need less government in our private lives; I am now coming to the opinion that there should be licenses for becoming a parent. It seems like every week you hear about some child being abused or murdered by their parents, perhaps with screening and classes on parenting, we would have less children in foster care and less of these cases.
Think about it... we are required to take classes and pass a test before we can drive a car and people are screened (in most cases) BEFORE they can adopt, why not insist on screening and licensing PRIOR to procreating? If it would save the life of even one child it would be worth it!
First of all, Radical, how do you know that she lived with the father before she went into rehab. There is no indication in the article that they were actually married. She could have been living in Portland, Maine with the child before going to rehab but the child was placed with the dad when she did go to rehab. That would put her living 75 miles away before and after rehab. 10 days rehab does not mean you lose your place of residence.
I am a single father and very tired of all the trash being thrown at fathers. In this case the mother was the one that was addicted and chose alcohol over her child. It is likely that what ever happened to this little child was done to her by someone entrusted to care for her. It is disgusting but so is the instant judgement against the father. I have my girls because their mother and her boyfriend were abusing and neglecting them to the point my ex lost her rights to them, something rarely done in this state-it's not always the father.
Does anyone know if there were signs of forced entry to the house?
We don't get any details on this Maine story down here.
If the Dad is fully cooperating with the Police, but they won't tell the Mom anything, it raises my suspicions.
Not that they would tell you much, but I would ask her some things to confirm his story if I were the police. And you would pick up a good bit based on the questions they ask.
Sadly, the police are really mainly traffic cops designed to collect revenue. The unsolved murder rate has GONE up over the years. Despite all the new technology.
Meanwhile more police than ever are on traffic duty with record ticket revenue.
I really wish these cases were more of a priority. Can't they just pretend that every murder case was a murder of a fellow officer (those cases they actually solve at a high rate).
I hope someone is just hiding this kid. But my logical side doesn't really think there will be a good ending.
@professormarine: The child was in the care of the father when she went missing. The state took the child and gave her to her dad while mom was in rehab. It is a great thing that you are a good father, but in this case, suspicion on the dad is warranted.
Ryan where are they traffic cops? Not where I live.
I don't think we are getting the full picture. The father seems to be working with the police and the behavior of the mother, i feel a misdirection from what she is saying....think a lie detector for both is in order.
Why did she refer to the baby not being alive? There is no indication baby is dead just missing and yet mother said Justin last to see baby alive. As a mother I would be holding out hope forever that my baby is alive until her body was found.
i agree that her wording is a bit 'suspect'. Something doesn't smell right and i'm not gonna eat it. poor baby
That struck me, too. I get a stalker vibe from her, and I would not be surprised to learn that she did something to the kid as part of some demented scheme to reconcile with the baby's father.
Yes, I would think you would hold out hope, yet this also could be saying she thinks he did something to her. Two year olds are adventurous, but to have an injury that needs a cast, and then suddenly "go missing", that just seems to me a little more suspect. That being said, if you are innocent and everyone is pointing the finger at you can you imagine how much more pain you would be in...I just sure hope they find this little girl!
Yes, she's not "right." But that does not mean she had anything to do with this. I'm sure the cops have both parents under the microscope right now.
This kind of thing is happening much more often (or at least being reported more these days). I am sure there is much more to this whole story than has come out so far -- Seems almost anyone can have a baby -- but does not mean they can be good parents -- yet couple who really want babies can not have them -- anyways...I only hope the baby is found alive and healthy very soon.
Having not been there, I do not know what exactly, the mother said. Did she really say " alive"? or is the reporter interjecting their interpretation? In the video, she said he was the last to her ( the baby).
As for visiting, the other stories state that the father would not let her visit after Nov. 21. Hmm.
This is seriously getting Nancy Grace-ish up in here. Do people really never learn?
What ever happened to the last couple that had their baby missing. That happened about 3 months ago. I never heard a conclusion to that story. Funny thing about the two stories, both mothers drank. I'm willing to bet theres more similarities, to both of these cases. Its pretty messed up having your little baby stolen and it just amazes me it can happen. After the first story, you'd think parents of little children like that, would take every extra precautions to make sure their baby was always safe. Its just way too hard for me to believe that someone can come into their homes without them hearing them and they take their baby. What if the baby was crying, would they hear that? This is just way to unbelievable for me that it can even happen, without anyone seeing something. Its a good thing no one ever tried to take my son when he was a baby. That would of at least brought the end to one of these child thieves. This is just too much for me to accept and understand and it makes me suspicious of the parents and their friends or family.
@oldman young eyes, the interview was live on the today show this morning and yes, she very much said "alive". I did a double take when I heard it.
Joe - what else can you do? Put your kids to sleep and lock your doors. Sometimes horrible things happen to normal people, and sometimes normal people do horrible things - that's just the world we live in.
Since there is no evidence of anything, I will refrain from speculating. There will be plenty of people on this vine doing just that. Have at it, folks.
I agree. Not enough to speculate or draw conclusions. It amazes me how people seem to "know" what happened. I'll withhold mine until more info comes in. All I can do right now is pray that baby is found and that she is safe.
People project from their own experience onto just about any situation....assume things have to be the same.
I think we all watch too much TV -- be it fiction crime shows and "real-life" crime news shows -- we all think we know it all now --because we have seen "stuff just like this before" -- somewhere or the other. That said - is this a "copy cat" thing? -- who knows -- hopefully everything will turn out well for all concerned.
Agreed. Reading thru the comments, what jumps out at me is how many people immediately assume the father did it. Yet the police have stated the father is not a suspect. From past examples, you know the police immediately suspect one if not both parents in something like this. For them to say what they did probably means they have a good reason for thinking he isn't involved. But of course all the psychics on these forums know different.
They said the Mother was not a suspect not the Father. He's the main suspect I'm sure since he was the last person to see her before she came up missing.
Rob;The father is Not a suspect and is cooperating 100% with law enforcement,I have several friends that live in Waterville and know the father.I personally do not know him. however I have spoken to my friends and thats what I was told.
Being that this is in the public eye & in the media, I think that the police would say that the father/mother are not suspects, in order to make them think they aren't so that they, idk, "relax" in a way or don't get suspicious as to how much they are actually being investigated. Everyone can have their opinions on who they think did it, but ultimately it's up to law enforcement to figure it out, until then it's going to be all a bunch of "he said-she said." But I do hope they find that precious little baby alive & safe.
You mean the police are giving them enough rope to hang themselves, like by saying something stupid on national tv such as "he was the last one to see her alive"??
Could be possible you never know. Hell, for all we know the police probably started examining the mother more after she said that statement, or they weren't to worried about it, because maybe just maybe they took into consideration that she is just accepting reality & what COULD be the outcome of this situation. The police are the ones who have all the reason to speculate as to why she said what she said, who knows, maybe after that statement she probably made herself the #1 suspect in law enforcement's eyes. But we aren't the ones there doing the investigating....all we have is our opinions & that's mine.
the problem with this news story is that a kid is missing and the police or the father is keeping the mother out of the loop. That's why the mother went public for help to keep her in the loop. Whether or not that there was a custody battle for care of child in their past, the mother is not satisfy with whatever information she had about the case of her baby being taken and missing.
It is this time again that americans should pull out our baseball bat and clobber the local government of maine and everybody involve--including the mom and dad of the missing baby. Hopefully then, the perp would return the child safe and sound.
I really do hope YOU'RE Kidding! What a waste of a post. So glad you took time out of your busy day to log on and judge others for using a forum the way it was intended: To share ideas & opinions - including speculation!
And Kat, it amazes me how many people don't KNOW the purpose of newsvine, but still feel compelled to tell others how they should be thinking. Get a clue!
Is it just me, or doesn't this little girl have a similar look to the baby that went missing in Kansas City and is also about same age? Can't assume there is any connection, but does seem odd. Parents in both situations seem a bit sketchy, but that might be exactly what some sicko out there is looking for.
The child that went missing in KC was 10 months. This little girl is almost 2.
There is also a missing toddler in Seattle right now. Says someone stole him out of her car that she left him in after she ran out of gas. Police says the car was not out of gas and had no mechanical problems. These stories are so unbelievable. I feel sorry for anyone who does end up having a child kidnapped because no one will believe them.
Aliens are likely snatching little children, better call Mulder and Skully.
Did anyone just hear her say, "He was the last one to see her ALIVE," why would she assume she is dead?? The father said he is hopefull that she is alive and someone has her... how does she know she is not alive??? That was just very odd to me!
Yes, they did. Not an original observation -- look at comments #1 & #2. But use of that phrase does not actually imply anything concerning what this woman thinks about the status of her child or any possible guilt on her part. That is just a phrase in the American lexicon that is used all the time when someone goes missing -- it is used on every TV cop show and real-life press release. I can easily see how the phrase would come out given the pressure this woman is under. It is called a "figure of speech" people! Give this woman a break! He was the last person known to have seen this child alive. Hopefully someone else will eventually see her alive again. Until then, there is absolutely nothing inaccurate about this woman's statement. Maybe you can all take a break from playing Perry Mason and just hope this child is found and brought back to her family in one piece. Then the mother can happily say that she has seen her child alive, too.
i couldnt have said it any better. because if an officer of the law were asked the same question, they would have answered it the same exact way, because this is how u woud answer the question. ; ) cheesh this does not make her look guilty of anything.
Absolutely untrue. That phrase IS used on every crime show and real-life press release but ONLY when referring to one who is KNOWN dead. You just don't say "last person to see her alive" if she is, in fact, still alive!! You would just say "he was the last person to see her".
This is no different than if she had said "We loved her so much"...
Exactly saddened, I think the same thing. I think people are reading too much into the phrase and that will be ALL anyone focuses on. I honestly don't think she meant it the way people are "assuming". You hear that phrase on the news all the time. Personally I find the way the father is treating the mother concerning. I don't care if you don;t like each other, this is your missing child and you should be working together. He is not pleading to the public or showing us anything.
You are right -- we are not the police nor are we "solving anything here" -- nothing is proven and we might all be "jumping on" a few word spoke by a young woman who is clearly under stress -- still whenever someone speaks of someone in the "past tense' -- "we loved" her. "last saw her alive" -- we have all (unfairly?)been "programmed" from past news stories, crime shows -- Nancy Grace --etc to ses something hidden in these words.
"Last person to see her alive". Not knowing if she is still alive or not, I would say with absolute certainty the father was the last one to see her alive. Now, if someone else took her, then they would be the last to see her alive.
And after a couple of weeks the possibility that her baby might be dead has probably started taking hold in this woman's mind.
Since when do we judge people for accepting what may very well be reality? We can think, she can't? Hell a part of AA (and many rehab programs) is learning to accept things as they are, and not how you imagine them to be.
I believe the parents are somehow involved in the disappearance. They both seem a little suspicious. Hate to say it but the outcome of this story doesn't seem good.
I agree. And I think we can all thank the Casey Anthony jury for this new trend... Seems it started kicking up a notch after that skank was aquitted. people are thinking "If Casey can get away with it, so can I".
for the life of me I don't understand how anyone could ever have the *thought* to hurt a child. it is disgusting and anyone who harms a child in any way, shape or form is the lowest of the low and believe me the world will be better off without them in it. I am still waiting for someone to give me the compelling argument AGAINST death penalty for anyone that hurts a child. It should be the automatic sentence - no questions, no appeals.
Just look at the still picture of her. She has that "I am a bitch, so what" look all over her face. Something isn't right. Dad probably took her to get her away from the mom
I believe the dad is hiding her... and not because she's a bitch, but because she has substance abuse problems. Weren't there previous articles that said she lost custody of her child when she had to go to rehab?
If I were the father and knew my ex was an addict and trying to get the kid back... you can bet I'd send my daughter away to a relative. Even at the risk of ending up in jail.
Then you need to rush right over to the police station and tell them you know what's going on. Hurry! Lives may be at stake!
Harold, she entered rehab, but I'm not sure she lost custody. I can see your point, and believe me, my family lives this everyday. My husband did take his daughter due to a drug/drunken mother. He didn't return her after visitation when my step-daughter at age 5 said "mommy puts powdered sugar on everything". She wanted powdered sugar on her mashed potatoes. He was charged with kidnapping, served 4 years and that was 19 years ago. Parents make rash decisions, understandably so, but they have long term results. IF this is what the father did, it won't help the child or himself. I think the father did do something, not saying he harmed her, because he didn't want the mother to have her. I just hope the child is safe. Parents don't always make the best decisions in times like this, but those decisions don't always benefit the child.
Thank you MonkeysNana for your insight.
Just wanted to confirm that nothing you said in your previous posts could be construed as "man hating". I guess someone didn't like that you ALL CAPPED the word father.
I absolutely do not hate men. Married happily for 16 years. I think if he had something to do with it, it would be because he had the child's interest at heart. GOing about it the wrong way? Probably. Experience speaking on that. My husband tried to protect his daughter (explained in previous post) and served 4 years (19 years ago) for not handling it properly. Parents TRY to do the right thing but sometimes emotions lead us down the wrong path. Sometimes we don't think ahead, but we try to do the best thing. I just hope and pray that whoever has her comes to their senses and realizes it before they dig that hole to deep.
I don't hate men.
I'm disgusted with how many children are turning up "missing" these days. Parents are losing their minds and hurting their own children has become a new trend too. I'm appalled!
The numbers haven't changed, but now we have Nancy Grace
Oh Kayner I think you are wrong, I think there are more and more children being murdered by a parent. I think part of it has to be that there are so many young single parents out there. Not that being young or single makes you an automatic bad parent (I was 20 when I had my son and for 6 years have raised him by myself and aside from the occasional spanking I have never done him harm). I also think that the other part is the amount of people addicted to drugs that are having children. It's a sad sad world we live in.
kb, it is possible you are correct, but also just as likely Kayner is correct. Without actual evidence -- you know what evidence is, right? -- to support either point, it is a useless argument to enter in to.
kb2005
Good point...this is the Casey Anthony effect. How many parents saw someone who was publicly reviled and convicted get off of a murder rap?
Not only do I blame her defense attorney for introducing a great new layering tactic called lie about everything and make ridiculous and unfounded allegations, I blame the prosecutor for rushing to convict this horrible person.
Now, every no good selfish parent who blames their child for their problems instead of themselves has a blueprint for how to get away with murder.
Depends on what you mean. Parents abducting children because of custody disputes is up. Parents killing their kids, or abductions by strangers is consistently flow. We just hear about it more often.
brian I agree with you 110%
Seems to be alot of missing babies lately. Every time it happens Casey Anthony comes to mind.
Sadly, another baby disposed of by her parents. I don't recall who was first Susan Smith or that Duckett woman, but, people just throw their children away and waste police resoources looking for them when they know they murdered them.
I'd expect this in other countries, but, not America! Poor litte angel! We have birth control and adoption.
why not in America? if anything it should expected more in America than in other countries.. think about it... American society is one of easy disposal. Americans don't fix items, they throw them out and get new ones - look for a TV repair shop or a furniture repair shop in your neighborhood -find any?.
if marriage is too difficult, they divorce rather than work it out. if the child is using drugs they kick the child to the curb rather than intervene.
so following that logic, the youth of america have been raise on a get-rid-of-it mentality-and-look-for-your-instant-gratification-without-care diet. this things you see in American Society now are not the problem, they are the symptom of a much, much larger problem.
of course this wasn't always the case. look back at the time of the greatest generation. 1900-1960.
Thanks man, you're right on the money
Sadly, another baby disposed of by her parents.
Hurry up and call the Waterville Police Department at (207) 680-4700. You need to fill them in on all the little details of this case, since you seem to know what REALLY happened.
are you kidding me "not in america", this is the most hateful,mean spirited, racist country in the world. they want to be the police of the world, they start wars for no reason and millions are killed.they want to preach morality, yet have more divorces, unwed births, drug use. they hate anyone who does not look like them.killing your children, spouses or perfect strangers is very american.
@chris in yucaipa
Chill dude! Geez! enough with the "sorry you're so stupid" attitude! both of your comments are not only the saying the same thing, but idiotic!
You're making yucaipaians look like buttheads
Hmm, comparing my 2 comments, in 2 different replies, both with different info. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you so close to home, it wasn't my intention to bring out the feeling stupid feeling in you. You have my apologies.
Regarding her comment about him being the last to see her alive...........how many babies and children are showing up alive lately? I am so saddened by this but realistically, they aren't showing up alive. Yes, you want to have hope, huge hopes, but maybe she is just thinking realistically and said what she really felt. He WAS the last to see her alive.
Caitey: ------- Were that my daughter, I would desparately hope she to be alive and well, but I would also, desparately fear death. Do you suspect absolute perfection in a mother who is beside herself with worry?
Oh, rehab... she's not very distraught for a mother whose child is missing.
she seems detached. as if she doe not really feel the gravity of the situation. this generation of 20-30 year old are heavy drug users and party goers. the majority of them are very narcissistic and lack empathy. it stands to reason, look at the media messages they are bombarded with. "The Jersey Shore", "Survivor", "Paradise Hotel", "Temptation Island", "Are You Hot?" and the list goes on. tell me how do we as a society expect a young mother to show remorse, empathy, distraught emotions, genuine feelings if all she has been taught is "Reality TV that pushes manipulation, conniving, narcissism, lying, cheating and so on, the shows uses those acts to seek higher ratings while at the same time debasing American Society's moral fiber. yes she's not very distraught.. she can't be... she doesn't understand how, or worst yet doesn't understand the concept of actually caring.
Or, you know, she's in shock and trying to desensitize herself so she doesn't go crazy from grief.
But no, kids these days don't "feel" like you did back in the Good ol...
Will - I agreed with your first post whole heartedly, however this post hit home. I am 29 in a week and not all 20-30 yr olds are heavy drug users and part goers so please do not group all us in that category! I personally and 75% of my friends work 40 hrs wk, do not watch any of the shows listed and do not use drugs. Sure when we all were in our early 20s we all went to bars, partied, however we grew up, have feelings just like everyone else. So please please do not lump all 20-30 yr olds in one group. Perhaps I am taking your post to personally but I hope you dont think that of all of us.
I call bull@!$%#, This girl looks fishy and i just have a gut feeling she either killed that kid and her boyfriend, or the two of them are in it together in some way. Just seems fake.
So let's just get a rope and string her up now. Why bother with a little thing like a trial -- it just costs tax payer's money, anyway. You have a "gut feeling" she's guilty -- that's good enough proof, I guess. (*sarcasm* folks)
She didn't have custody. The child was not with her. What reason could you possibly have to convict this woman at this point in the investigation? Snap judgements like this not only make me sad, but they scare me a little, too. I hope you do not end up in a jury pool someday.
If you read the article, she lives 75 miles away from where her ex-boyfriend lives. She was at home when the child went missing, and she did not have custody and she hasn't even seen the child since the 21st of November. So, tell me, how is she involved? I don't think she did it and some folks on here already have her convicted. She said a stupid statement but maybe she was trying to be dramatic. Instead of looking at the one that did not have the child at her house lets look at the one that did.
Let's think about this, he puts her to bed and i'm sure locks his doors before going to bed himself. Come on folks..a child that age doesn't get up, unlock a door and walk out. He has to know what happened to that baby!
In the report they said she couldn't have left the house by herself.
Absolutely kb!
Just FYI, a lot of people in Maine don't lock their houses when they go to sleep. Many don't even lock them when they leave!
I'm still not buying the Father's story that the child was taken from the house and mysteriously disappeared whether the door was locked or not!
Um. Sorry lady. You're a nut job and he doesn't want anything to do with you. Shouldn't you be a little bit more concerned with your child then your relationship?
Who's to say she is not alive? Her. Is she implicating herself? Yes.
I can not believe she said that on national television!! "He was the last person to see her alive" theres something not right about this girl....I felt it just be looking at her, but the more she talked the more suspisious I became. I wouldn't be surprised she she has something to do with this..poor baby girl!
If social services wanted this child away from her home and she has a cast on her arm, I really hope this guy has that baby with someone that is keeping her safe and that she is still alive.
The father was in fact the last one to see her alive. He put her to bed the night before she went missing. Have you heard of anyone else that has seen her alive since then?! The mom's message did not imply the baby was dead..she wants to talk to the one who saw her last. Makes sense to me.
yes also makes sense to me. so far so good regarding the tangibles and factual of the matter. what I think bothers people myself included is her lack of empathy or concern for the child's safety or actual alarm at the immensity of the situation
I think most all of us here understand what this young lady was trying to say -(I want to talk to the person who was last with my baby) -- However, many here are jumping on the exactly words she used .. eg: is she hiding something? Accusing the fatherrof someting? covering up something, Setting him up ? -etc. I nor anyone esle here knows all the facts -- Maybe just a poor chosice of words on the part of a girl under stress --maybe not --
Maybe after 2 weeks the idea that her child is probably dead has become all too much a reality for her. Christ almighty people grab onto anything when stories like these break. Also how do any of you know what she's feeling? Because she's not collapsed into a heap, she's not showing empathy? Empathy for who, herself? Do you people even know what empathy means? WE feel empathy for HER, she feels the primary emotions, sorry, fear, anger, etc. That she doesn't show them all 2 weeks after the fact on national tv is a meaningless observation. She could simply be trying to remain calm so she doesn't come off as hysterical and making accusations, and people are saying she has no feelings?
I don't want to live on this world with the rest of you sometimes.
she not gonna get over the alkyhol condition in one week either
i know about the demon alkyhol it dont go away ever
use your noggins people
The broken arm doesn't sound good. If people find their children to be such a burden there are places to take them and give them up where they will be in better hands. Don't have them if you can't or won't take care of them. Birth control is very easy! Sad story for this precious little girl. It breaks my heart.
A responsible, good parent that I work with had a 4 year old who tripped over a stuffed animal in the living room and broke his arm 2 years ago over the holidays. A broken arm doesn't mean anything.
I believe it was mentioned that the dr. who looked at the child's arm said himself that it was from an accident 4 weeks prior.....who knows tho I guess everyone is going to believe what they want, doesn't matter what anyone else says....
Yes, her wording doesn't sound right.
Bruises, soft cast on arm, what the hell? This is very messy and it stinks to high heaven
Matilda:- I would as well but did she look in any way beside herself? She didn't to me and no i do not expect perfection, but she was a little too sure of herself.
Maybe she's gone thru the stages and has accepted that her baby girl is most likely dead?
That can have a pretty drastic effect on your demeanor. She might be more angry than sad at this point, and wants answers. Or she's simply turned it off so as not to be overwhelmed.
I suspect that being the last person to see the child, and obviously responsible for her safety, that he's having a hard time facing her (the mother) I know it would be very difficult for me to face the mother of our child if she went missing. I am not excusing him, I think he should talk with her, but I do have some empathy for his situation.
Well, hate to say it but the Mom is a train wreck. I think that while she had nothing to do with the little girl being missing, she is relishing in the media hype instead of helping to look for the little girl. "They're (the police-DiPietro) are not giving me any information other than what I see on the news".
If I was this little girls father, I'd stay off of the Today Show and be out in the fields looking for her. Every time I see the previews and she's included...I wince up just a little bit.
Why Oh Why don't we, When a child is BORN, give them a SS number and implant a chip in them so they can be found!!!! We already do it to high priced DOGS and Horses & Cattle???????
The chips put in dogs doesn't allow you to find them, it simply allows vets to scan dogs that are brought in and see if the dog has been reported missing.
Not to mention, I would not be okay with the government implanting a GPS chip in my child.
I agree, even if they only find the chip, they cand at least suspect foul play.
how about instead of a chip. assign a device to a child? like a little pocket item that you can Velcro to the child's clothing or diaper similar to the GPS tracking used in phones? this device can be bought at any best Buy or even online- there are tons of places you can buy them, some of them look like watches for kids. some of them are as tiny as a USB flash drive that u can sew into your child's backpack so they can never remove it unless they set out to do it intentionally. as a parent I would use them if it meant the safety of my child. I wouldn't consider it spying because it is my child and his/her safety is paramount above all else.
@Will - I would certainly be for a GPS that is in a piece of jewelry or something, just not a tracking chip actually put in the child.
Not sure how that would help, people would simply remove it.
I would get a chip put in my baby today if it was possible. There are too many things out there that can happen to your kids. Why wouldn't you want to know where they are if you needed to? If kids had chips parents would more often know whether their kids are dead or alive if they are missing because they could be found. A whole lot less little Janey or Johnny Does too. Just a thought...
There's not really a lot of things that can happen to your child that would be prevented by a chip. The odds of a stranger abducting your kid are something like 1 in 10 million. If anyone's going to hurt them, it'll probably be you.
@Capt Tripps - yes, the jewelry, clothing or whatever could be removed, if the person who took your child knew what the jewelry was, but it could still lead the police to where your child was at some point, unless it was removed in the house.
And no, a chip wouldn't prevent anything, though if it led to finding the child, all the better.
In 1996 the idea of an implanted chip was introduced, supposedly to locate a kidnapped child.
In reality, it was so the insurance agency could pull the plug on grandma and grandpa when their medical procedures were going to get too high. It was also suggested that we could determine who was "illegal" and who wasn't. They were implanting bugs with the chips to test them out.
As you can see, NOTHING happened with this idea going forward. Can you imagine the abuse this type of futurama drama would have wrought?
ha! seared in the hind ass like cattle, i think that is s and m
There is very deep concern for a child on my part. I will pray for this. One thing, though, in reference to the editing before an article is put online is the critique. Seeing a conflict where there shouldn't be one is hard to keep concentration in line. God will manage what cannot be managed by humans.
Seattle 22 I agree it is strange the mother said to the reporter that her ex was the last one to see the girl alive.
If she had hope she should have said he was the last one to see her.
Thank you... you get it!
So maybe she's decided to be realistic? It's been 2 weeks. Some people know the statistics. If so she just wants to know what happened.
That would definitely deaden someone's emotions.
Just because the mother was 75 miles away, does not mean that she did not have a friend or pay someone to take the child because the father was not allowing her to see the child. Her being at home that night does not mean anything.
It is very strange that the father, or any other family members did not hear anything that night. I have a grandson that is 2, and I hear him move all night long, and for someone to come in through the door or a window, I would most definitely hear that.
The father not talking is also a bit alarming. If it was my child, I would be on every radio station and television station, pleading that my child was safely returned. Yet, I have only seen the story on Nancy Grace and have heard nothing else about it other than from that show.
We can sit and point fingers at both parents, but until more evidence comes up, accusations are not going to find this girl. And I pray that they find her alive and well.
Why does anyone still watch Nancy Grace? She is such garbage.
My kids actually got up 2 or 3 times, got dressed opened the front door and went on the porch to play, at around 3 years old. I had to put a latch on the inside of the front door because of it. I didn't wake up, nor did their mother.
It happens. Why people think everyone sleeps like them I dunno, but we are usually dead to the world. I don't even wake up when my kids come get in bed with me, unless it's around the time my alarm goes off and I'm coming out of it.